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Post by martindn on May 19, 2010 22:45:15 GMT
La Luna, yes, that was a great album, I always loved it years before I had ever heard of Hayley. But compare her Scarborough Fair from that album to Hayley's, well, compared to Hayley Sarah's voice sounds thin and weak. And you are always aware that Sarah is using every trick in the book and some that aren't to disguise her weakenesses, almost as if she is hiding behind her backing musicians, whereas Hayley, as I have said before, could not be more exposed. Her voice is there for all to hear, any error, however slight, would stick out like a ore thumb.
There is music and music and things move on. For me, Hayley has redefined everything. She has set a new standard. Sarah, you were great among ordinary mortals. But you struggle against angels.
Martin D
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Post by nicola on May 20, 2010 6:48:56 GMT
I've heard Sarah live, and she doesn't hide behind anything. Her Nessun Dorma was just incredible. The end noted lasted forever, unlike Paul Potts and his ilk. She was note perfect at every moment of the show. Before 2005, she had a tremendous voice. Her power and versatility would have sung Hayley off the stage, imho. But I don't think she could these days. She's lost a lot of that ability as far as I can tell. Whether it's age or the nodules she developed, I don't know, but one listen to her latest album and it's really evident. I can't stand to have it on for more than one song, her "new" voice grates that much.
Regardless, I know what you're saying when you say she uses "tricks". She's not using "tricks" to hide anything, but the overblown arrangements you find on all of her albums are down to her camp and theatrical artistic nature - nothing more. Her producer comes from a Euro-pop/rock background, too.
I don't like Scarborough Fair - everyone does it, but it's to each their own which rendition they prefer. I actually favour Amy Nuttall's version if I favour any, because the arrangement is so gorgeous. <3
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Post by martindn on May 21, 2010 22:04:08 GMT
Hi Nicola, Well, my favourite way to hear Hayley is unaccompanied. Sarah's overblown backings do her no favours. Why does she need them? A great voice should be able to stand on its own. As for Scarborough Fair, well I suppose the definitive version is Martin Carthy, or perhaps Simon and Garfunkel or Bob Dylan's slightly different version from his album Nashville Skyline. But my own personal favourite is Hayleys performance at Beaumanor. She kept looking at people she recognised in the audience, and knowing where most of them were, I could probably tell you who she was looking at at any particular time. She seemed to look directly at me several times too, and it really doesn't get any better than that. It felt as if she was singing the song to me personally. Have a look for yourself. www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0zotVShxtAMartin D |
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Post by amptique on May 21, 2010 22:17:42 GMT
Hi Nicola, Well, my favourite way to hear Hayley is unaccompanied. Sarah's overblown backings do her no favours. Why does she need them? A great voice should be able to stand on its own. As for Scarborough Fair, well I suppose the definitive version is Martin Carthy, or perhaps Simon and Garfunkel or Bob Dylan's slightly different version from his album Nashville Skyline. But my own personal favourite is Hayleys performance at Beaumanor. She kept looking at people she recognised in the audience, and knowing where most of them were, I could probably tell you who she was looking at at any particular time. She seemed to look directly at me several times too, and it really doesn't get any better than that. It felt as if she was singing the song to me personally. Have a look for yourself. www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0zotVShxtAMartin D WOW! I see what you mean, Martin. Bill |
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Post by martindn on May 21, 2010 22:28:17 GMT
But what I meant to post here, before I got distracted, was some stats about Hayley's shrinking lead on Nicola's user chart. Here is what I have seen this week, at 9am UK time each day
Day Votes for Hayley Hayley's lead
Monday 6604 187
Tuesday +83 179
Wednesday +127 174
Thursday +97 152
Friday +55 121
So you see we need to make an effort. Otherwise, Hayley will be overtaken in 10 days time.
Martin D
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Post by grant on May 21, 2010 22:44:47 GMT
Yes Martin! The trend has been quite worrying  but it does seem to have slowed today - I looked about 30 minutes ago and it was still around 118. I think, as I've suggested before, our consistency will prevail but we do need to keep the votes for Hayley rollong in!!  Best wishes Grant |
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Post by grant on May 22, 2010 11:38:07 GMT
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Post by martindn on May 22, 2010 21:39:15 GMT
Yes, I put out an appeal on all channels. And it seems to have helped. So keep it up folks, our princess is the best female singer there is, and perhaps the best there has ever been. In any genre, not just classical crossover. Let's make sure she knows it and that Nicola's chart reflects that. Sarah, I'll agree, was awesome in her day, and I liked her music, but this generation belongs to Hayley.
Martin D
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Post by grant on May 22, 2010 22:52:03 GMT
Hi Martin Yes, I put out an appeal on all channels. And it seems to have helped. So keep it up folks, our princess is the best female singer there is, and perhaps the best there has ever been. In any genre, not just classical crossover. Let's make sure she knows it and that Nicola's chart reflects that. Sarah, I'll agree, was awesome in her day, and I liked her music, but this generation belongs to Hayley.
Martin D Well, at the moment, Sarah's fans are rallying and Hayley's lead is back to just over 150 - will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings! Best wishes Grant |
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Post by joanne on May 23, 2010 17:18:04 GMT
Well, at the moment, Sarah's fans are rallying and Hayley's lead is back to just over 150 - will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings! Best wishes Grant I don't know if it's tomorrow in the UK yet, but it's dropped to 146 now! cheers, Joanne |
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Post by martindn on May 24, 2010 8:06:38 GMT
9am reading today Hayley's lead is 134. Keep at it guys
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Post by joanne on May 24, 2010 16:11:45 GMT
About 7 hours ago, Hayley's lead was 138. Then 140 plus. Now it's 163!  Let's keep it up  |
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Post by martindn on May 25, 2010 12:36:51 GMT
9am today Hayley's lead is 144.
We gained 10, and that took 161 votes in a day! That's nearly double her average per day for the last week! There really is a titanic struggle going on. Keep at it guys
Martin D
Keep it up guys.
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Post by joanne on May 26, 2010 11:53:22 GMT
12.50pm London time: 235!
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Post by grant on May 26, 2010 12:30:53 GMT
12.50pm London time: 235! Then Sarah's fans have rallied again! - it was 198 a few seconds ago!! Best wishes Grant |
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but it does seem to have slowed today - I looked about 30 minutes ago and it was still around 118.
Let's keep it up 