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Post by Jillian on Apr 22, 2009 6:22:49 GMT
I love most pictures of Hayley, but that very last one on reply #79 is not a very good look on Hayley. Tons of makeup, and her hair looks like they're trying to make her look like a rock star. It's not that bad, but it's probably my least favorite photo of Hayley. I'm sure that until the day we see Hayley looking like this, we have nothing to worry about! The second one is actually really impressive!
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Post by Richard on Apr 22, 2009 7:40:18 GMT
Hello Jillian! That's put me off my breakfast! In retaliation, how about this? There's room for two in that dress! Richard
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Post by Jillian on Apr 22, 2009 11:43:00 GMT
Hi Richard, Ha, ha! I know! I remember reading the Youtube comments of the video of Hayley singing with him. "How on earth is she managing to sing without bursting out laughing?", I remember reading! Talk about total embodiment of " blue and green must never be seen!" Anyway, the least he could have done was iron it! Although, it is doubtless such a costume has its benefits -- it really leads nicely into something I was thinking about just before. I was thinking about Steve's comments that 'Hayley Westenra' has previously never really been about image. It reminded me that the only attempt to style Hayley into 'an image' occurred in relation to the (unfortunately cancelled -- boo hiss) 'Wuthering Heights' single. I also noticed that it was when Hayley was dressed up 'in character' that she delivered (in my opinion) the most expressive, dramatic and emotive performance I've seen from her. Hayley isn't exactly renowned for hair and arms flying everywhere and dramatic facial expressions -- but it's all there in the Wuthering Heights film clip. It's much easier to 'break free' when you're in a costume -- I know a lot of performers love stage costumes because they make them feel less like a human being and more like a rock star. I think Hayley might have had a bit of that going on there! This would be the reason why I think a bit of an image refresher would be a good thing -- perhaps it would be more liberating to occassionally separate the 'performer' Hayley from the 'everyday' Hayley. Anyway, I have some screen shots of the Wuthering Heights film clip here -- partially to demonstrate my point, partially so we can all wonder how Hayley has so much hair and partially because it's an amazing film clip! Click for Larger The reason the first three look a bit better than the others is because I jazzed them up a bit on my computer. If anyone particularly wants one of these captures spruced up, I'm willing to give it a go. If anyone's interested, some of those screenshots have been made into wallpapers in this thread" hwi.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Miscellaneous&action=display&thread=3910&page=1#91929
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Post by comet on Apr 22, 2009 11:51:20 GMT
Hi Jillian, You made me read The Highwayman again, Have not read it since about 1973.. Did you also read The Listeners by Walter De La Mare. and I thought you were just into shoes and clothes.. The Japanese man in the green and blue, Is he not a prince ? and by the way I use green and blue together regularly.. much of nature is combinations of green and blue... The landscape against the sky for instance...so whoever came up with the saying must have been colour blind.. I often wonder why it is so much repeated...It seems such a thoughtless empty headed statement.. When I first heard it I felt an absolute need to break that rule as often as possible
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Post by grant on Apr 22, 2009 12:18:17 GMT
Jillian, without a doubt this forum thread has been among the most well-received in HWI history. Look at all the views it has garnered since it was started just weeks ago! What's more, for all we know it may have factored into Hayley's response to the Brits this year Very good point Steve! I've been fascinated by it and it would be quite something if Hayley has been taking notice of it. Thing is, we've never had anyone like Jillian before and 'us blokes' get funny looks (and giggles from Hayley!) when we show an interest in what she is wearing! Thanks Jillian!! Best wishes Grant
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Post by grant on Apr 22, 2009 12:29:57 GMT
Hi Comet and by the way I use green and blue together regularly.. much of nature is combinations of green and blue... The landscape against the sky for instance...so whoever came up with the saying must have been colour blind.. I often wonder why it is so much repeated...It seems such a thoughtless empty headed statement.. When I first heard it I felt an absolute need to break that rule as often as possible These sayings often have a very significant meaning way back in history, though I don't know the origins of this one, although it may harken back to the time of Court Jesters! The full saying as I remember it was "Blue and green should ne'r be seen except upon a fool" I remember my mum used to use the saying regularly when I was a young boy (and that's quite some years ago ) I also remember being told "It's OK to wear black shoes with a brown suit but you must never wear brown shoes with a black suit!" How times change! Best wishes Grant
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Post by Martin on Apr 22, 2009 12:39:01 GMT
Hi Richard Ref your photo in post #91, that isn't a dress she (or is it he?) is wearing - I think she has just parachuted into the concert hall! Martin
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Post by Jillian on Apr 22, 2009 12:58:01 GMT
Hi Richard Ref your photo in post #91, that isn't a dress she (or is it he?) is wearing - I think she has just parachuted into the concert hall! Martin I think the he/she (oh the embarrassment of androgyny!) is Japanese sopranist Tomotaka Okamato. He's also with Samon Promotion. www.sopranista-okamoto.com/Hi Jillian, You made me read The Highwayman again, Have not read it since about 1973.. Did you also read The Listeners by Walter De La Mare. and I thought you were just into shoes and clothes.. The Japanese man in the green and blue, Is he not a prince ? and by the way I use green and blue together regularly.. much of nature is combinations of green and blue... The landscape against the sky for instance...so whoever came up with the saying must have been colour blind.. I often wonder why it is so much repeated...It seems such a thoughtless empty headed statement.. When I first heard it I felt an absolute need to break that rule as often as possible Hi Comet, The Highwayman is good poem isn't it? It's even better when sung! I'd never read anything by Walter De La Mare before, so I had a look at some of his work -- he seems to be rather preoccupied with death... but all those poets were, weren't they? I like his poem 'The Stranger'. All this talk of Wuthering Heights is reminding me of studying the novel at school... My teacher was obsessed with Heathcliffe and considered him to be some sort of sex god. "Oh, girls! But isn't he just so sexy!" she used to declare! Of course, we were 15 and at an all girls Christian school, so most of it totally went over our heads. At that age (and rightfully so) I couldn't understand the destructive allure of such a tortured, violent hero -- with age it's all beginning to dawn on me, so I should give it another try. I prefer 'Jane Eyre' at the moment.... but anyway... I should get back on topic before I get into trouble! As for the shoes and clothes... well... apart from the fact that I'm a disillusioned and dissatisfied law student -- meaning I'm interested in anything (oh god, just anything!) which isn't the law.... I wasn't terribly preoccupied with fashion and just thought it would be a nifty idea for a thread. Now it's consuming me and I'm finding that I've started buying fashion magazines .... ha, ha, ha
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Post by Richard on Apr 22, 2009 13:52:36 GMT
Hello Jillian and Martin! We have a thread about Tomotaka Okamoto HERE. He would have ironed his dress, but unfortunately his steam roller broke down! Richard
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Post by roger on Apr 22, 2009 13:58:09 GMT
Actually Jillian, I think he ironed it himself later because he said he needed to get away for a pressing engagement! Roger
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Post by comet on Apr 22, 2009 15:53:15 GMT
The double DVD that was recently selling on EBAY has 29 minutes of a TV programme on it with Tomotaka Okamoto and Hayley on it in good quality. I thought perhaps the fire curtain had fallen on him and he hadn't noticed, by the look on Hayley's face at times I think she was highly amused to say the least. and to keep this on thread I think Hayley was wearing a dress or something I would probably have noticed if she wasn't I got the DVD set to see if any material had been nicked from HWI. I don't think any of it was, Bits of Songs Of Praise and other material that was transmitted on TV also some excerpts from DECCA promo items including the DECCA logo and it's associated warnings about copyright which I found highly amusing. Oh Jillian you may find The Stolen Child on the Loreena Mc Kennitt CDs written by William Butler Yates an Irish poet
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Post by Jeff on Apr 23, 2009 9:49:20 GMT
Hi Richard Ref your photo in post #91, that isn't a dress she (or is it he?) is wearing - I think she has just parachuted into the concert hall! Martin I was at that concert and his dress did seem to have plenty of room in it ! However, judging from the pitch of his voice, another item of clothing must have been way too tight !!
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Post by Cherany on Apr 23, 2009 16:35:10 GMT
I also noticed that it was when Hayley was dressed up 'in character' that she delivered (in my opinion) the most expressive, dramatic and emotive performance I've seen from her. Hayley isn't exactly renowned for hair and arms flying everywhere and dramatic facial expressions -- but it's all there in the Wuthering Heights film clip. It's much easier to 'break free' when you're in a costume -- I know a lot of performers love stage costumes because they make them feel less like a human being and more like a rock star. I think Hayley might have had a bit of that going on there! This is a very good point. I think, too, though, that with a music video, there is probably a lot more directing going on than is typical for a concert. If a director was there guiding her and asking her for more, it certainly helped! I've always wondered if Hayley just feels a bit silly being dramatic (you know, the overdone/theatrical/cheese factors) & that is why we see less emotion from her than we'd like at times.
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Post by stevemacdonald on Apr 23, 2009 19:56:48 GMT
...I've always wondered if Hayley just feels a bit silly being dramatic (you know, the overdone/theatrical/cheese factors) & that is why we see less emotion from her than we'd like at times. Which is also why she might be avoiding opera as a career. Talk about dramatic overkill and all the silly costumes they wear. They would have to re-name this thread "Hayley: Fashion Victim"!
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Post by martindn on Apr 23, 2009 20:13:29 GMT
...I've always wondered if Hayley just feels a bit silly being dramatic (you know, the overdone/theatrical/cheese factors) & that is why we see less emotion from her than we'd like at times. Which is also why she might be avoiding opera as a career. Talk about dramatic overkill and all the silly costumes they wear. They would have to re-name this thread "Hayley: Fashion Victim"! Well, you might not SEE much emotion, but you can certainly HEAR it! She is a singer, and sound is her medium. Her voice is her fortune. She doesn't need to overact, since her vocal talent is enough! But perhaps that is just me, since I am a very sound oriented person, and have little appreciation for the visual arts (and being colourblind probably doesn't help). Martin Martin
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