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Post by nicola on Mar 23, 2009 23:55:48 GMT
How on earth did I get hold of the NZ edition? I bought it from Tesco when it was first released! These abnormalities always happen to me!  ! I really cannot be bothered to re-write my review though. I'll tweak it a bit to say that they are the two editions that I have instead of saying that they're both UK editions. Why me? |
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Post by nicola on Mar 24, 2009 9:29:41 GMT
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Post by dutchjoyce on Mar 24, 2009 11:10:39 GMT
How on earth did I get hold of the NZ edition? I bought it from Tesco when it was first released! These abnormalities always happen to me! ! I really cannot be bothered to re-write my review though. I'll tweak it a bit to say that they are the two editions that I have instead of saying that they're both UK editions. Why me? Hayley - Odyssey NEU Zustand: Neuware, original verpackt. Hinweis: Nicht alle Artikel werden vom Hersteller eingeschweißt. Westenra, Hayley Odyssey Audio:CD(2005-10-04) Anzahl der Disks:1 Label:Decca EAN:028947570271 Anzahl der Tracks:12 Gesamtdauer:000:00 Tracklist 1 Westenra, Hayley Prayer 2 Westenra, Hayley Never Saw Blue 3 Westenra, Hayley Dell' Amore Nonsisa 4 Westenra, Hayley Ave Maria 5 Westenra, Hayley Both Sides Now 6 Westenra, Hayley What You Never Know (Won't Hurt You) 7 Westenra, Hayley May It Be 8 Westenra, Hayley Quanta Qualia 9 Westenra, Hayley 1.Aria Cantilena 10 Westenra, Hayley She Moves Through The Fair 11 Westenra, Hayley I Say Grace 12 Westenra, Hayley My Heart Belongs To You This one i found on Ebay, not the Nz edition, you can have a look at the barcode of the cd. .........possiblly it is the European/German edition Greetz JOYCE |
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Post by nicola on Mar 24, 2009 11:21:05 GMT
My EAN number matches that one. The catalogue number on mine is 475 7027, nothing is written in German though. Definitely English. It does say 'Made in the EU'.
So with only 12 tracks, I see that I was shortchanged with this edition. Nevermind, I quite like it. It's home, it's comfortable, it's the one I know. <3
I just typed the catalogue number in at Decca's website, and they also seem confused. It immediately came up with this:
Right album, with lack of details, but I don't know where they dreamed that cover up from!
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Post by nicola on Mar 24, 2009 11:30:17 GMT
No wait, wait:
Further abnormalities! There is a sticker on the jewel case of my copy, and this is the first time I have noticed this, but it says:
Apart from the duet with Bocelli, this stick is completely wrong, as my edition does not have either of those songs!
Obviously a distribution error. Again, it always happens to me. Always.
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Post by grant on Mar 24, 2009 19:22:12 GMT
Hello Nicola You certainly seem to have a rather unusual version of Odyssey!  I have two versions with the the catalogue number 475-702-7, one of which is the original Australia/New Zealand version which is clearly endorsed "made in Australia" The other one is a Taiwan release which has a different cover photo and comes in a box with a photo book. The OZ/NZ version was released on 8th August 2005, whereas the original UK version (475-715-7) didn't appear until 26th September. Joyce mentions what appears to be a German release with the same tracklisting, so there may actually be a "European" version. What I find most interesting is the sticker you mention, because looking at the track lists I have, "The Water Is Wide" only appeared on the UK special edition and a German edition released around the same time - April 2006! I have no idea how TESCO came to have such an anomaly. Best wishes Grant |
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Post by nicola on Mar 26, 2009 22:14:10 GMT
I believe, that up to this point, I had done really well re-listening to all of Hayley's albums and successfully liking them. Unfortunately, I didn't manage this with Treasure, so I guess what could be considered my first negative review has turned up on my blog site. I'll understand if you don't want to read it, as I know many people like it here, but I have tried to be fair. ! nicolathinks.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/hayley-westenras-treasure/P.S. I have been listening to so much Hayley during this marathon that she has gone ahead of Sarah Brightman in my listening charts on Last.Fm! XD XD  |
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Post by martindn on Mar 26, 2009 23:08:42 GMT
Well, Nicola, as usual your opinion is almost diametrically opposite to mine. That's the sort of thing that makes this forum interesting, the ways in which different people hear things differently. Treasure is my personal favourite of Hayley's international albums. I love Abide with Me especially its wonderful a capella first verse, so wonderfully spiritual), One Fine Day, Sonny and the rest. By the way, I understand Hayley wrote Le Notte del Silenzio as well (which I don't think you mentioned). Yes, I know some of these songs have been done to death, but Hayley's voice is special. It is worth re-recoding a well known song if you do it better (or in an original way) and Hayley does. It is very rare in my opinion to find any song that anyone else has ever sung better than Hayley. Her versions of just about all of those songs is the best I have ever heard Ever. By anyone. That is what makes them worth listening to.
So we certainly have different opinions. I think you also said that "I'm Kissing You" was you favourite song on Prayer,whereas for me it is almost my least favourite (a title which goes to "Sparkle"), with Listen to the Wind as my own favourite. It would be interesting to understand what it is that is different that you and I look for and enjoy in songs by the same artist.
But this is another of your thought provoking reviews, interesting to read even though I didn't agree with much of it.
Martin
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Post by comet on Mar 27, 2009 0:05:38 GMT
I believe, that up to this point, I had done really well re-listening to all of Hayley's albums and successfully liking them. Unfortunately, I didn't manage this with Treasure, so I guess what could be considered my first negative review has turned up on my blog site. I'll understand if you don't want to read it, as I know many people like it here, but I have tried to be fair. ! nicolathinks.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/hayley-westenras-treasure/P.S. I have been listening to so much Hayley during this marathon that she has gone ahead of Sarah Brightman in my listening charts on Last.Fm! XD XD Hi Nicola, I think there is a basic difference between most of Hayley's male fans and yourself, They are blokes, they just like the sound of her voice.. They don't need the song to be anything more. The same way JOSH does it for you, Hayley does it for us, Don't worry about it too much, Don't beat yourself up about it.... It's just the way it is. I'm having the same difficulty with Josh and I know some of the ladies here just love him to bits. If you have some spare time to read a book, try this one, it is a good manual for for life itself and really should be taught at school. It is also one of the funniest books i have ever read  Why Men Don't Listen and Women Can't Read Maps explores this phenomenon, in the humorous style of writing that we associate with Allan Pease. Allan and Barbara Pease have spent seven years collecting research, interviewing experts and collating a comprehensive study of the profound communication differences between men and women to give us insight into why we each have a different reaction to the same thing. Among the many things revealed in this book are - * Why men focus on one thing at a time * Why women can speak, listen and write simultaneously * What men and women need to do to get on in business * Why men offer solutions but hate advice * Why women can't reverse park This is one of the most remarkable books ever written on male and female relationships. |
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Post by nicola on Mar 27, 2009 7:57:35 GMT
I have not read that book, but I have read one exactly like it, and I actually reviewedMartin, thank you for your respectful comments, as always. <3 Although I wouldn't quite say that Josh could sing anything, I wouldn't rate him so high if he had not done the 'Awake' album, which he did most of himself. Equally, I love Michael Ball's voice, but I won't listen to him because his material is rubbish. This may sound awful, but I don't think that I ever found Hayley's renditions of standard songs to ever have been the best I have ever heard. But then, I am sitting beside a 600 CD collection, nearly 200 of which is classical crossover, which may well explain how I get tired with standards more easily. I love Hayley best when she delivers new songs. Not to say that I dislike ANY cover - I like her 'What You Never Know' and 'Benedictus' for example. I much prefer her 'What You Never Know' actually. Hayley should cover some of Sarah's original songs more often as Sarah is just so overblown sometimes, whilst Hayley is more subtle. I love crossover when it does something new, but I have big problems with the genre because of all the standards. But anyway, this won't be problem with the two Japanese albums I am going to review. I guess that they are covers, but hey, I don't know them any other way!  |
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Post by martindn on Mar 27, 2009 22:49:47 GMT
Hi Nicola,
I will be interested to read your reviews of the Japanese albums. I as you know am another one that has problems seeing much in Josh, so maybe Paul is right, it is a male/female thing. BTW Paul, that was a brilliant post, I think you hit the nail on the head.
I too have a large collection of both vinyl records and CDs, and even some mucicassettes going back many years, but perhaps not so much crossover as you.
And yes, the thing with Hayley is I just love her voice. As an engineer, I have always admired innovation in any field, and I think that Hayley innovates more than most crossover artists, as well as being the most versatile I have heard, Since her voice is still developing and improving, I think I will always regard her latest album as her best whilst that continues, irrespective of material. Since Treasure is later than Pure and her voice is more mature, I prefer it. I also felt that the gulf between her recodings and liver performances was much wider at the time of Pure than t is now. Whether this is becuase recording techniques have improved, or becuase Hayley's mature voice is easier to record I'm not sure.
Perhaps your view is more logical, and for just about any artist expect Hayley I would go along with that approach. When I go to a classical concert, as I often do, I am more interested in the music than the performers, and the music, rather than the performers, is what I go to hear. But Hayley is different and has sonething in my opinion that other singers don't, so I will enjoy hearing her whatever she sings.
Martin
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