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Post by timj on Jan 24, 2009 18:42:36 GMT
I think a collection of tunes that will appeal to a broader demographic rather than a particular market segment would help, regardless of classification. I was never a Classical Music fan but discovered Hayley's Music through normal promotional methods. That may be key to a successful blurring of Hayley's genre, broader ( more hard work) promotion......(But not in desert places where naturally indestructible viruses lurk, PLEASE).........TimJ
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Post by comet on Jan 24, 2009 19:52:14 GMT
I hope Hayley records whatever tickles her fancy at any given time, We know she will take her best shot at it , We will probably love it anyway, there will be a place and a listener for anything she records, all the better if it becomes "Popular".
I don't select music by genre, Just because I like the 1812 overture by what's his name or The Blue Danube by Strauss, I can also listen to Led Zeppelin or Kraftwerk, Deep Forrest or Vivaldi , popularity of a piece is often a good measure of it, people in general (The CD buying public) are the best judges of music. the elitist groups tend to be very closed minded about what they think they "should " be listening to.
A group like ABBA appealed to all age groups from babies to the elderly, they weren't concerned about what type of music it was , they just knew they liked it.
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Post by gra7890 on Jan 24, 2009 20:50:41 GMT
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Post by gra7890 on Jan 24, 2009 20:54:23 GMT
If it isn't classical, what are the chances of Radio 2 putting it on their playlist? I feel they should but they may have a deep-rooted belief that Hayley is still predominantly considered a classical artiste and they may take some persuading. That, perhaps, is all part of the risk? Hi Roger, Is this where Aled Jones and friends come in useful  Graham |
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Post by martindn on Jan 24, 2009 21:42:25 GMT
Hi All,
Yes, I agree absolutely. But there is no need to take the risk. Why not do BOTH? She could release TWO albums, one consisting of primarily classical music, and the other "pop" where pop might include folk music (I really love her folk songs, whether English, Celtic or Maori). But the "pop" album would allow Hayley to show off her undoubted songwriting talents, whilst the classical one would keep the classical purists happy. I would buy both of course.
That might cause a problem for her concert performances of course. Would she feel that she had to have different concert repertoires for "classical" and "pop" concerts. I'm sure that would go against the grain as far as Hayley is concerned, since I don't think she would wish to be restricted by such considerations.
The problem, if it is a problem and I have to say I don't see it as one, is that Hayley's appeal is so broad. You need an open mind to appreciate all that Hayley does. Many of us here admit to liking a large range of different musical styles, myself included, so for us it is no problem.
I would like Hayley to be free to follow her heart musically. It is a risky strategy to be sure, and history is littered with artists who did that and came unstuck. But Hayley's sheer quality is such, and her fans are so open minded, that I really don't think it would happen to her.
And moving into new areas might result in more people listening to her, and realising that in Hayley's case it is the singer not the song that matters.
Martin
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Post by martindn on Jan 24, 2009 21:47:55 GMT
Is this where Aled Jones and friends come in useful Graham Or Wogan, especially if he is made aware of Hayley's Irish connections. He championed Eva Cassidy, so we know he appreciates a beautiful voice. Martin |
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Post by larryhauck on Jan 24, 2009 21:56:43 GMT
Steve,
DITTO!!!!!!!!!
Larry
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Post by Andrew on Jan 24, 2009 23:22:39 GMT
Hi All, I have just voted too... I don't think Hayley should be bound to producing another album which qualifies for the classical charts... I believe that Hayley's Japanese songs are some of her finest works and I would love to hear her singing some more folk numbers in the future too. So yes, a mix of different genres would be nice... As others have suggested, there is no reason why Hayley can't include classical pieces in her repertoire as and when she pleases.  Ms. Hayley Dee is a multitalented multitasker!!! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifAndrew  |
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Post by Dean McCarten on Jan 24, 2009 23:37:21 GMT
Hi All,
I have voted too...
I think Hayley should be able to sings what she likes and make albums based on that.
Which is one of the many reasons I think Hayley is so unique.
Dean
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Post by Dave on Jan 25, 2009 0:52:22 GMT
Here's a thought. Let's suppose the next album does not qualify for the classical charts but that it does contain two or three classical tracks. Would Classic FM still play those few tracks or would they ignore the album completely because it wasn't classical? Thoughts are just like buses - you don't get one for ages and then two come along!... If it isn't classical, what are the chances of Radio 2 putting it on their playlist? I feel they should but they may have a deep-rooted belief that Hayley is still predominantly considered a classical artiste and they may take some persuading. That, perhaps, is all part of the risk? Roger Hi Roger, Yes, I think Classic FM would occasionally play any "classical" tracks from a technically pop album... especially around the release date, when it is most important. They may also continue to carry interviews with Hayley, both these things they have done with other well known Classical Crossover singers when they have released technically pop albums. Katherine Jenkins and Russell Watson are two that come to mind. And of course, Hayley's previous "classical" albums would no doubt continue to enter the Classic FM Chart from time to time, so tracks from them would then get some airplay there too. I agree with your thoughts about Radio 2 - Hayley would still be considered a classical crossover singer and it would be hard to get any airplay there. They just don't play much classical crossover, however popular the singers and however high they get in the charts. She would probably get a few plays though. As to what would happen if Hayley went further and even dropped the "classical crossover" label, well I've no idea!  Cheers, Dave |
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Post by larryhauck on Jan 25, 2009 1:10:51 GMT
Hi Andrew,
As I see it Hayley wants to spread her wings and reach new heights. Classical music appeals to a much smaller audience than some other types of music. (Although I'm one that likes classical). But looking at Hayley's enormous talent and her age why shouldn't she want to have more of her peers for an audience. She's already accomplished much success in classical music, so why not move on to new things.
Larry
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Post by Paddy on Jan 25, 2009 1:53:56 GMT
And I vote not to wrap Hayley in any neat little 'packages' (genres).
Yes, (some) of Hayley's songs, even albums/editions, should be 'classical'.
Perhaps, some of her albums (or 'special' editions) might be almost exclusively so (similar to Katherine Jenkins's 'Sacred Arias').
More important, for me, is that Hayley expresses Hayley's special 'art' more fully
and (thereby) maximises (and hopefully broadens) the appeal of her individual and unique talent.
So, on Hayley's next album/s, I anticipate,
not just some songs that Hayley likes to sing or genres she wishes to explore,
nor only some 'classical' songs at which she excels,
but mostly a variety of Hayley's own (new) songs, composed and sung by Hayley herself.
Perhaps, to enable the 'songbird' to fly free,
at least a few 'Special Editions' of the next album (or even a series of genre-specific albums) will be necessary,
to promote and increase Hayley's appeal to a wider variety of unexplored audiences (awaiting captivation).
Paddy
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Post by Ross on Jan 25, 2009 4:24:31 GMT
I voted for non-classical as I will listen to anything that Hayley sings. Back in NZ one of the songs that Hayley and Dave Dobbyn sang back in February is now sung by another duet and is getting a lot of air time on the radio. So there is no reason that Hayley couldn't succeed as a pop singer.
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Post by kcuteus1 on Jan 25, 2009 7:51:28 GMT
I have not posted in sometime. I may be one of very few that has not thought of her cds as classial. I always thought of tham as voical. Pure which was her frist internatial cd does not have very much songs that I would call classical but by no means are they poppy. And pop music is not all that bad. All what pop means in that is is popaur music not and there are all kinds of pop music. But this is also coming from someone that likes almost all kinds of music.
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Post by Richard on Jan 25, 2009 9:14:58 GMT
Hello Kimberly, it's good to see you posting again!  I certainly agree with the comments that the classical repertoire is rather limited for crossover artists, and this is often apparent in the Classic FM Chart Show on Saturday mornings. Yesterday the Priests were at No.1 for the eighth week running, and Mark Forrest played their version of Andrew Lloyd Webber's 'Pie Jesu'. Are there any classical crossover singers out there who haven't recorded that one?  Best Wishes, Richard |
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