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Post by roger on Nov 23, 2008 11:50:53 GMT
I have seen discussion on YT about what denomination Hayley belongs to. Is there an inteview anywhere where she discusses her faith? Hi Georgina, As far as I know, Hayley has never given an interview specifically about her faith but it has inevitably been mentioned in some of her radio and television appearances. On the only occasion that she answered the direct question, she said she was Anglican. As her faith (or the denomination to which she belongs) is not part of her public life as a singer, it is not something that we wish to delve into too much. Out of respect for her privacy, I have started this thread largely to discourage detailed discussion on the topic rather than to encourage it.  Roger |
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Post by fusilier23 on Nov 23, 2008 16:41:06 GMT
I seem to remember a tv segment where Hayley said that although Gerald was raised religious Jill wasn't, so she discovered her faith largely on her own by reading, followed by her singing "Down in the River." That is probably about as detailed as we should get, though. Hayley's actions speak more to her values than any discussion could.
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Post by Libby on Nov 23, 2008 20:49:34 GMT
Her choice of the song "Majesty" seems to say something about her faith, too.
Then, what Dr. Schuller said about her at the end of her performance of Abide with Me on the Hour of Power, does, too.
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Post by georgina on Nov 24, 2008 19:57:00 GMT
I have seen discussion on YT about what denomination Hayley belongs to. Is there an inteview anywhere where she discusses her faith? Hi Georgina, As far as I know, Hayley has never given an interview specifically about her faith but it has inevitably been mentioned in some of her radio and television appearances. On the only occasion that she answered the direct question, she said she was Anglican. As her faith (or the denomination to which she belongs) is not part of her public life as a singer, it is not something that we wish to delve into too much. Out of respect for her privacy, I have started this thread largely to discourage detailed discussion on the topic rather than to encourage it. Roger Thank you. I take your point that it is not part of her public life. It seems the people on YT were all trying to claim her for their own.  |
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Post by martindn on Nov 24, 2008 21:22:12 GMT
What is part of her public life are the interviews she has given, especially the one where she discusses that subject with Gloria Hunniford, her insistence on including at least one Christian song on every album and in every live performance that she has control over, and her appearances on Songs of Praise. None of that is any sort of secret. We know where she stands. and insists on standing even if it is "bad for business". Those of us who share her faith love her for doing it! In the UK at least, that takes no little courage.
As to how much of an issue she makes of it, that is entirely up to her, and I agree with Roger that we should not make a big splash about it if that is not what Hayley wants. But if it is what she wants, I and I know several others here will support her to the hilt! .
Martin
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Post by larryhauck on Nov 24, 2008 21:50:43 GMT
Hi All,
Hayley's faith is a very personal issue. As is mine. One but has to observe Hayley to realize that she is a very moral person.
Also faith is an abstract concept that defies explanation.
Larry
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Post by Dori on Nov 25, 2008 8:38:58 GMT
I agree with you, Larry. And I think it is important for us to NOT 'discuss' her faith, as we shouldn't be tempted to debate or even give our opinion about it. Her personal beliefs should not be a controversial matter, because her music is a universal language and we all speak it by supporting her. Dori |
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Post by graemek on Nov 25, 2008 11:27:28 GMT
Hmmmm. Hayley's Faith is ultimately between her & her Creator. Same as all the rest of us: "Ask, and you will receive. Search, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened for you......." Matt.7 (CEV) Graeme |
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Post by I-H-F on Nov 25, 2008 13:19:06 GMT
Good points by Larry and Dori.
I think Hayley's beliefs is a personal issue, and it shouldn't be discussed. I'm sure many members wouldn't like their own beliefs being discussed here either.
Unfortunately, a person's religion and beliefs can be a controversial issue in many parts of the world, including my own country - don't let it be an issue here.
We all come from different backgrounds and beliefs. But, lets not forget the reason we were all brought together here on this forum...
...It wasn't beliefs - it was Hayley.
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Post by fusilier23 on Nov 25, 2008 14:34:26 GMT
Yes, BUT Hayley's EXPRESSED thoughts, I think, are fair game up to a point. I think speculating on her PRIVATE beliefs is a no-no. I am kinda curious about the independent reading she talked about doing to educate herself in her faith, in the sense of what books did she think were helpful and so on.
Beliefs can be controversial, without a doubt, but I don't think the answer is suppression of discussion unless things get out of hand, that's what the mods are for.
If some folks think Hayley is that much better because of her worldview, then cool. That said, that can be a really disappointing path to go down.
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Post by roger on Nov 25, 2008 17:12:41 GMT
Beliefs can be controversial, without a doubt, but I don't think the answer is suppression of discussion unless things get out of hand, that's what the mods are for. Hi Steven, With respect, that is not exactly what the Mods are for - not ideally anyway. As Moderators, our principal role is to control the content of the forum so that it is unlikely to contain anything which may be deemed inappropriate to anyone, members and guests alike. Yes, that can be done by modifying and deleting the occasional post but that should be a last resort. We believe it is far better to avoid such issues in the first place. We have attempted to do that by making it known that we do not welcome religious discussion. From a practical point of view, when things get out of hand, it's too late. It could take all day to trawl through a series of posts to decide what should and should not be deleted, possibly necessitating lengthy discussion with other members of the Team. Meanwhile, those inappropriate posts would remain visible. Dealing with it in that way would, at best, break the continuity of the thread. The quick and easy solution would therefore be to delete every post within the thread after a given point but that, inevitably, would mean losing some posts which may have been perfectly acceptable in whole or in part. And that would not be acceptable either, hence our rule to disallow religious (or political) debate. Now, if Hayley should speak openly about her faith in an interview, I am not saying we won't cover it because we will. But unless and until that happens, it is a topic to which we are not prepared to give coverage because, as you say, it can easily become controversial and that makes it an unnecessary risk to the peace and harmony that we are determined to maintain on this forum. Sorry for the lecture! It isn't specifically aimed at you but is an attempt to make our position clear to everyone. Roger |
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Post by fusilier23 on Nov 25, 2008 20:03:08 GMT
No offense taken, Roger. So far I am only working off ONE television interview which was actually a religious show which was about faith. I have no intention of going further than the confines of what was said there, nor of speculating.
As for political debate, well, that's a whole other question which isn't part of this thread.
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Post by martindn on Nov 25, 2008 21:54:44 GMT
Now, if Hayley should speak openly about her faith in an interview, I am not saying we won't cover it because we will. But unless and until that happens, it is a topic to which we are not prepared to give coverage because, as you say, it can easily become controversial and that makes it an unnecessary risk to the peace and harmony that we are determined to maintain on this forum. Roger Well said Roger! I think that is something like what I was trying to say, in my inept way. Martin |
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Post by Dean McCarten on Nov 25, 2008 22:21:27 GMT
I completely agree with Roger.
I would say that Hayley is one of most caring people I have met (who also uses her talents to assisting others who are not so fortunate) & The HWI Members I have have had the pleasure of meeting so far only wish to assist Hayley in her charitable efforts in anyway possible (look at the posters).
Now I would say that Hayley's actions & that of her fans to assist organizations such as UNICEF are the answers to peoples Prayers, so regardless of what faith anyone is Actions speaks louder than words
I for one am very proud to be one of Hayley's fans and a Member of HWI for this reason.
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Post by georgina on Nov 26, 2008 0:17:19 GMT
What is part of her public life are the interviews she has given, especially the one where she discusses that subject with Gloria Hunniford, her insistence on including at least one Christian song on every album and in every live performance that she has control over, and her appearances on Songs of Praise. None of that is any sort of secret. We know where she stands. and insists on standing even if it is "bad for business". Those of us who share her faith love her for doing it! In the UK at least, that takes no little courage. Martin I seem to have opened up a somewhat thorny issue. My question was about interviews, but not that I wanted to discuss them on the board. It is not of great importance to me, but a link to the Gloria Hunniford interview, even by PM I'd be interested in. I'm a fan of her singing realy and would be whatever her faith, I'm just mildly curious. I didn't think SOP would be bad for business. Christian songs seem to be a big part of a lot of crossover singers repetoires, and people like Celine Dion. |
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