Post by fusilier23 on Jan 1, 2006 17:45:28 GMT
Well, I'd like to think there is room in this forum for discussion of movies, since most don't provoke discussions of very much heat, and either you like them or you don't.
Being honest, I must admit that I have always been a fan of fantasy, and continue to be even into my 30s, though I hope that does not make me a geek. I am thankful for the advent of CGI, for it means that many of the fantasy classics and neoclassics are now practicable as movies, and very successful ones, as the Lord Of The Rings movies showed. With that success it was only a matter of time before someone took a stab at bringing Tolkien's buddy C.S. Lewis to the big screen. Given the success of this first installment of the Chronicles (covered all costs, well into profit, and still running strongly), I think there is a stong possibility that at least the next two, and possibly all seven, will ultimately be filmed, and the film fantasy world will be made that much richer.
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I'm not going to rehash the whole plot here, you can read the book or see the film for that, but I will give a brief overview. In this tale four children are sent away from London in or about 1940 and stay with an aged professor whose house contains a wardrobe. That wardrobe turns out to be a portal to the world of Narnia, a mixture of Greek and Norse myth jumbled in with talking animals. It is frozen in a permanent winter (always winter and never Xmas) by awicked ice-queen type called the White Witch. However, there is a prophecy that the coming of four "sons of Adam and daughters of Eve" coupled with the resurgence of Aslan, an extremely powerful lion king, will spell doom for the witch. One child, younger brother Edmund, betrays the others and his life is declared forfeit to the Witch, however, Aslan offers his own life in the boy's place, and undergoes an extremely painful and humiliating execution. However, ancient magic brings him back to life, the witch is defeated, and the children installed as kings and queens. After several years as such, while pursuing a white stag who supposedly grants wishes if caught, they find themselves tumbling back out of the wardrobe, just as they were, and the clock has barely changed in our world. Fantasy themes include portals, magic arms, sacrifice, redemption, learning better, and a few others.
The basic story, and most of the salient plot ponts, together with much of the allegorical imagery that C.S. Lewis is famous for (he was a VERY devout Anglican) are largely preserved, though some of it is toned down. This is good, since with the books having been read by at least three generations too much fiddling with it would have produced a huge backlash. Some changes need to be made, of course, since what plays out well on the page doesn't necessarily do so on screen, and the beginning is extended to show the air-raids on London so that everyone seeing the movie will know why the children are sent away, whereas this is dealt with in a throwaway reference on the first page in the book, since most folks from the 50s when the books were published would know immediately what the air raids referred to.
Without a doubt, the special effects are great, surpassing even the Lord of the Rings in sheer variey of fantastic creatures shown: fauns, centaurs, griffons, dwarves, giants, a phoenix, goblins, boggles, hags, tree spirits, minotaurs, harpies, merpeople (briefly)and variegated talking animals, most notably two Cockney beavers (who eat fish and chips) are all present and all look very real, although the most real of all is definitely Aslan himself, voiced very well by Liam Neeson (though I would have preferred John Huston, who is unfortunately no longer with us), with great attention paid not only to the mouth movement, but that of the surrounding musculature when he speaks.
The acting by the six or seven major human characters is better than passable, which is no mean feat considering that four of them are kids. Tilda Swinton is believably evil as the White Witch, eschewing Draculean laughs and the female eqaivalent of mustache-twirling in favor of subtle cruelty and understated viciousness, save in her biggest moment as she tells Aslan all the world is going to be doomed once she finishes with him before she brings down the fatal knife. Good villains should always be believable in their evil, unless you are going totally over the top as you might with a Darth Vader. William Moseley is also believable as the eldest child suddenly thrust into a leadership role,although, since he is almost a man already, his stepping up to fully being one is not a stretch. Anna Popplewell is a decent Susan, although she is also one of the older kids she doesn't have a whole lot of developing to do, save in a scene (not in the book) in which she remarks to her sister she'd like to rebuild their former closeness, and her sister replies that things were fine before she became boring. Skandar Keynes, as schemer Edmund (he was also apparently the troublemaker of the cast) is definitively the brother no one would want to have, accurately conveying resentment against both his younger sister for being the youngest, and his elder siblings for thinking they know better. Finally, Georgie Henley steals nearly every scene she is in as innocent Lucy, for once a child playing a child who actually looks like a child rather than a miniature beauty queen, with a Peter Pan collar and a bow in her hair together with impossibly wide eyes.
I can see a lot of the changes that were made, but I wonder about some of them.
- I think the extended beginning with the raid on London could have been extended by about a minute to show RAF fighters battling the Luftwaffe and another minute showing the London emergency crews in action, firemen hosing down the wreckage, rescuemen trying to salvage what they could, policement taking notes, and so forth, all in the tin helmets of the time. It would be a neat homage to 9/11 among other things.
- I do NOT think the initial encounter between Edmund and the White Witch should have been in pajamas. The scene of a fully-grown woman behaving in a seductive manner and taking a young boy in his pajamas under her mantle "to keep warm," rather than the blanket of her sleigh, is downright creepy.
- There isn't any precedent in the book for the Witch's crown and castle to be made of ice, although the idea of the melting of her crown showing the crumbling of her power does work.
- I'm not sure why the reason for the kids going into the wardrobe is changed from fleeing a party of sightseers to having broken a window blaying cricket. I can see ducking into the wardrobe to avoid a group of strangers that the housekeeper has specifically said to stay out of the way of, I can't see it to avoid the consequences of breaking a window, since the Professor and his staff would have put two and two together and no one would have ducked any consequences.
- The addition of the fox distracting the wolves and the flight through the tunnel and over the frozen river does add some needed variation to an otherwise regular chase sequence.
- the flag of Narnia is supposed to be a red lion on a green field, and here the field is yellow, which looks more like the royal standard of Scotland, but oh well.
- It is too bad they removed the romp that Aslan and the two girls are supposed to have after his resurrection, that could have been a nice montage and an opportunity for the composer to show off.
- most importantly, after Edmund's rescue, and the conversation that he has with Aslan out of earshot of everyone else, his siblings simply absolve him without him saying he was sorry first, which I think sends a dfifferent message than the book.
- There is unfortunately nothing showing the children's reign, nor any reason given for them chasing the white stag, and the idea that they would do that in their robes and crowns is kind of silly.
I think the action sequences are great, as good as almost anything in LOTR except maybe the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Although there isn't any precedent in the books for Peter and Edmund wearing armor, it does make sense, and you can see realistic dread in their faces as they prepare to take on the enemy. There isn't any precedent for seeing the White Witch stab Edmund in the stomach, nor for Susan to shoot a dwarf about to stab him when already wounded, but I think it's better to show the girls as well as the guys in the fight, and hiding how Edmund was wounded is ducking facts. There are questions in the minds of some reviewers and parents about the level of violence, but nothing exceeds what's in the book, and the fact is that C.S. Lewis was a strong believer that things like that should not be bowdlerized.
So, I'd be interested in the comments of others here.
Being honest, I must admit that I have always been a fan of fantasy, and continue to be even into my 30s, though I hope that does not make me a geek. I am thankful for the advent of CGI, for it means that many of the fantasy classics and neoclassics are now practicable as movies, and very successful ones, as the Lord Of The Rings movies showed. With that success it was only a matter of time before someone took a stab at bringing Tolkien's buddy C.S. Lewis to the big screen. Given the success of this first installment of the Chronicles (covered all costs, well into profit, and still running strongly), I think there is a stong possibility that at least the next two, and possibly all seven, will ultimately be filmed, and the film fantasy world will be made that much richer.
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o
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l
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r
w
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I'm not going to rehash the whole plot here, you can read the book or see the film for that, but I will give a brief overview. In this tale four children are sent away from London in or about 1940 and stay with an aged professor whose house contains a wardrobe. That wardrobe turns out to be a portal to the world of Narnia, a mixture of Greek and Norse myth jumbled in with talking animals. It is frozen in a permanent winter (always winter and never Xmas) by awicked ice-queen type called the White Witch. However, there is a prophecy that the coming of four "sons of Adam and daughters of Eve" coupled with the resurgence of Aslan, an extremely powerful lion king, will spell doom for the witch. One child, younger brother Edmund, betrays the others and his life is declared forfeit to the Witch, however, Aslan offers his own life in the boy's place, and undergoes an extremely painful and humiliating execution. However, ancient magic brings him back to life, the witch is defeated, and the children installed as kings and queens. After several years as such, while pursuing a white stag who supposedly grants wishes if caught, they find themselves tumbling back out of the wardrobe, just as they were, and the clock has barely changed in our world. Fantasy themes include portals, magic arms, sacrifice, redemption, learning better, and a few others.
The basic story, and most of the salient plot ponts, together with much of the allegorical imagery that C.S. Lewis is famous for (he was a VERY devout Anglican) are largely preserved, though some of it is toned down. This is good, since with the books having been read by at least three generations too much fiddling with it would have produced a huge backlash. Some changes need to be made, of course, since what plays out well on the page doesn't necessarily do so on screen, and the beginning is extended to show the air-raids on London so that everyone seeing the movie will know why the children are sent away, whereas this is dealt with in a throwaway reference on the first page in the book, since most folks from the 50s when the books were published would know immediately what the air raids referred to.
Without a doubt, the special effects are great, surpassing even the Lord of the Rings in sheer variey of fantastic creatures shown: fauns, centaurs, griffons, dwarves, giants, a phoenix, goblins, boggles, hags, tree spirits, minotaurs, harpies, merpeople (briefly)and variegated talking animals, most notably two Cockney beavers (who eat fish and chips) are all present and all look very real, although the most real of all is definitely Aslan himself, voiced very well by Liam Neeson (though I would have preferred John Huston, who is unfortunately no longer with us), with great attention paid not only to the mouth movement, but that of the surrounding musculature when he speaks.
The acting by the six or seven major human characters is better than passable, which is no mean feat considering that four of them are kids. Tilda Swinton is believably evil as the White Witch, eschewing Draculean laughs and the female eqaivalent of mustache-twirling in favor of subtle cruelty and understated viciousness, save in her biggest moment as she tells Aslan all the world is going to be doomed once she finishes with him before she brings down the fatal knife. Good villains should always be believable in their evil, unless you are going totally over the top as you might with a Darth Vader. William Moseley is also believable as the eldest child suddenly thrust into a leadership role,although, since he is almost a man already, his stepping up to fully being one is not a stretch. Anna Popplewell is a decent Susan, although she is also one of the older kids she doesn't have a whole lot of developing to do, save in a scene (not in the book) in which she remarks to her sister she'd like to rebuild their former closeness, and her sister replies that things were fine before she became boring. Skandar Keynes, as schemer Edmund (he was also apparently the troublemaker of the cast) is definitively the brother no one would want to have, accurately conveying resentment against both his younger sister for being the youngest, and his elder siblings for thinking they know better. Finally, Georgie Henley steals nearly every scene she is in as innocent Lucy, for once a child playing a child who actually looks like a child rather than a miniature beauty queen, with a Peter Pan collar and a bow in her hair together with impossibly wide eyes.
I can see a lot of the changes that were made, but I wonder about some of them.
- I think the extended beginning with the raid on London could have been extended by about a minute to show RAF fighters battling the Luftwaffe and another minute showing the London emergency crews in action, firemen hosing down the wreckage, rescuemen trying to salvage what they could, policement taking notes, and so forth, all in the tin helmets of the time. It would be a neat homage to 9/11 among other things.
- I do NOT think the initial encounter between Edmund and the White Witch should have been in pajamas. The scene of a fully-grown woman behaving in a seductive manner and taking a young boy in his pajamas under her mantle "to keep warm," rather than the blanket of her sleigh, is downright creepy.
- There isn't any precedent in the book for the Witch's crown and castle to be made of ice, although the idea of the melting of her crown showing the crumbling of her power does work.
- I'm not sure why the reason for the kids going into the wardrobe is changed from fleeing a party of sightseers to having broken a window blaying cricket. I can see ducking into the wardrobe to avoid a group of strangers that the housekeeper has specifically said to stay out of the way of, I can't see it to avoid the consequences of breaking a window, since the Professor and his staff would have put two and two together and no one would have ducked any consequences.
- The addition of the fox distracting the wolves and the flight through the tunnel and over the frozen river does add some needed variation to an otherwise regular chase sequence.
- the flag of Narnia is supposed to be a red lion on a green field, and here the field is yellow, which looks more like the royal standard of Scotland, but oh well.
- It is too bad they removed the romp that Aslan and the two girls are supposed to have after his resurrection, that could have been a nice montage and an opportunity for the composer to show off.
- most importantly, after Edmund's rescue, and the conversation that he has with Aslan out of earshot of everyone else, his siblings simply absolve him without him saying he was sorry first, which I think sends a dfifferent message than the book.
- There is unfortunately nothing showing the children's reign, nor any reason given for them chasing the white stag, and the idea that they would do that in their robes and crowns is kind of silly.
I think the action sequences are great, as good as almost anything in LOTR except maybe the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Although there isn't any precedent in the books for Peter and Edmund wearing armor, it does make sense, and you can see realistic dread in their faces as they prepare to take on the enemy. There isn't any precedent for seeing the White Witch stab Edmund in the stomach, nor for Susan to shoot a dwarf about to stab him when already wounded, but I think it's better to show the girls as well as the guys in the fight, and hiding how Edmund was wounded is ducking facts. There are questions in the minds of some reviewers and parents about the level of violence, but nothing exceeds what's in the book, and the fact is that C.S. Lewis was a strong believer that things like that should not be bowdlerized.
So, I'd be interested in the comments of others here.