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Post by gerrit on Feb 16, 2008 22:24:56 GMT
Hi All, For those who do not regularly visit my Katherine Jenkins International site, I thought I would just draw your attention to the fact that I have just installed a search function at my site. My site has currently in excess of 1100 pages - and I discovered that people aren't aware of the information that is available at the site. I am interested in feedback about experiences people have with this search function. Check www.katherine-jenkins-international.com/ (top right-hand corner) Gerrit
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Post by Joe on Feb 17, 2008 2:49:22 GMT
Hi Gerrit,
I found the search function at KJI to be very good. I searched for two cities in the USA and was pleased with the results.
It's been a while since I visited the site and it looks great !
Regards, Joe
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Post by gerrit on Feb 17, 2008 17:18:01 GMT
Hehe Joe,
Interesting. I can currently think of 3 cities that feature prominently in Katherine's visits to the US: Las Vegas, Los Angeles and New York.
Which ones did you search for?
Gerrit
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Post by Joe on Feb 17, 2008 17:23:54 GMT
Hehe Joe, Interesting. I can currently think of 3 cities that feature prominently in Katherine's visits to the US: Las Vegas, Los Angeles and New York. Which ones did you search for? Gerrit Hello Gerrit, The cities were Los Angeles and New York. My first search was just USA. Joe
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Post by gerrit on Feb 17, 2008 17:59:20 GMT
Hi Joe, By searching USA, you would have had quite a small number of results . Interestingly, one of them would be a German text which I translated. Thanks for your feedback! Gerrit
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Post by I-H-F on Mar 11, 2009 1:40:51 GMT
I visited Katherine Jenkins International Forum for the first time, but it doesn't seem to have many up-to-date posts.
Has all the members deserted it, or is there just not much happening with Katherine's career at the moment?
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Post by Joe on Mar 11, 2009 2:41:09 GMT
I visited Katherine Jenkins International Forum for the first time, but it doesn't seem to have many up-to-date posts. Has all the members deserted it, or is there just not much happening with Katherine's career at the moment? I believe Gerrit has all but abandoned it; and directing members to visit the official KJ forum at UCJ.
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Post by comet on Mar 11, 2009 9:27:22 GMT
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Post by gerrit on Mar 20, 2009 0:42:35 GMT
Hi All,
Whereas the observation that I have all but abandoned K-J-I would appear to be right, it is not completely right.
My (non-)maintenance of K-J-I is directly related to Katherine's agreement to appear in GQ, which I have always termed as the Rich Boys Playboy Magazine. I have had great difficulties in continuing to support my own K-J-I site after that, as I refuse to assist in supporting GQ and similar rubbish.
At around that same time, I started to lose interest in al manner of support sites for singers, be it Hayley, or even any other sites I started, like Zoe-Mace-International and Holly-Holyoake-International.
Just recently I have started to post here again (not on Katherine's official forum, by the way). Maybe it is because I want to return to my 'first love' in music, Hayley.
Even though I have not updated K-J-I for quite some time, I will not abandon it. At a time appropriate to me personally, I will revive it.
I have had many personal contacts with Hayley, from Cardiff/Llandudno 2004 (meeting Holly Holyoake) to Helsinki 2006 (meeting Saara Aalto). I have an autographed copy of Holly's first and only CD up till now, and I have an autographed copy of a special Christmas album recorded by Saara Aalto, which was only made available to friends). I have also had many personal contacts with Zoe Mace and her parents (I have autographed copies of all 3 of Zoe's albums).
Of all the singers I have supported, the only one I have virtually NIL contact is Katherine Jenkins, the one on whose website I spent most of my time. And boy, I don't mind making a secret of it, I felt that by her agreeing to meet Piers Morgan for an article in GQ she forsook her high moral stance (and her mother Susan did the same).
I am hoping I can revive my interest in young British singers. Frankly, right now I am more interested in Holly, Zoe and Faryl (Smith), than in ever spending any more time on K-J-I.
I hope to be able to assist in supporting these young singers - I have really lost my appetite for supporting the principal subject of K-J-I.
I have never received any worthwhile personal feedback for running that site whatsoever. So why should I continue to support Miss Jenkins?
Gerrit
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Post by gerrit on Mar 20, 2009 21:02:41 GMT
Ok, nobody has as yet replied to my previous post.
Now I am going to tell you something else. Why should people waste their time on trying to maintain websites for all and sundry?
Frankly, I don't think there's ANY need for Hayley-Westenra-International to continue its existence. Nor is there ANY need for Katherine-Jenkins-International, Holly-Holyoake-International or Zoe-Mace-International. (Or All-Angels-Internationational, if you ask me.)
All these artists have by now their own MySpace or similar site - the notion of a dedicated fan site is completely outdated.
Frankly, this forum here is bordering on the obsolete.
Sorry if I come across as offensive.
In my view though, new young talent doesn't need the assistance of us oldies to try and maintain websites.
If you ask me, Hayley-Westenra-Internatonal will soon be nothing more but a dragon from the past. Why should we continue wasting our time on something that can be handled much more effectively by the artists themselves.
Why waste time on obsolete nonsense.
Times move on. It is about time for managers of websites to move on too.
In my honest opinion, sites like HWI, KJI, HHI and ZMI have had their time. All these artists have more than enough tools at their disposal now to publicise themselves.
Why is AAI on the border of becoming defunct. Why is KJI on the border of becoming defunct? Why? Because, whatever reasons existed to start these sites, technology has moved on to such a degree that sites like HWI, HHI, KJI, AAI and others are becoming utterly superfluous.
None of these artists require any outside assistance anymore, they have more than enoigh tools to profile themselves on Internet.
Your thoughts are appreciated.
Gerrit
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Post by gra7890 on Mar 20, 2009 21:20:15 GMT
Hi Gerritt, We have just lost the controversy from one thread now you start this on another ! HWI has many functions,......Yes it does support Hayley, but it is also to share each others thoughts, and at concerts enjoy each others company. It is a meeting place for those who want to talk about Hayley. I have been a member for about 18 months and would miss it greatly if as you suggest it was to cease. Support Hayley we do in all aspects, Grant's initiative in his poster appeal is evidence to this ! All of the above would not happen without HWI Best Wishes, Graham
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Post by roger on Mar 20, 2009 21:56:13 GMT
Hi Gerrit, I have answered most of your points in response to your PM. I will therefore merely pick up on this one: Frankly, this forum here is bordering on the obsolete. As we are currently receing almost 900 visits a day to this forum, I don't think it can be described as obsolete. Merely to summarise my PM for the benefit of others, Hayley has told me that HWI's existance really does make a difference and that is good enough for me. Even if it didn't, we would continue because we enjoy it. The other tools that are now available for artists to promote themselves are of little help if they don't have sufficient time to use them. If HWI becomes a dragon from the past, we will audition for the role of Smaug in the Hobbit films. I'm sure Hayley would be delighted to see us. Roger
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Post by gerrit on Mar 20, 2009 22:06:43 GMT
Hi Graham,
Please believe me, I don;t want to start a new controversy.
All I want to say right now that I have started K-J-I a few years ago, and that I have becone uttterly disappointed. Also, before starting K-J-I, I was a wholehearted supporter of Hayley.
Right now though, it is my firm conviction that the notion of a dedicated fansite is obsolete.
Katherine Jenkins doesn't require K-J-I. Nor does Hayley require H-W-I.
All the same, I have decided to cut out all unnecessary expenses on my behalf. Before long therefore, Katherine-Jenkins-International will cease to exist.
Gerrit
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Post by gra7890 on Mar 20, 2009 22:17:04 GMT
........ Nor does Hayley require H-W-I. Hi Gerritt, Maybe Hayley does not require it, but I am sure she appreciates it . However you might be right in that we require it Graham
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Post by I-H-F on Mar 20, 2009 22:56:59 GMT
I was disappointed that KJI didn't seem to be updated much, as I would've liked to keep up to date with her career. It just doesn't seem worthwhile visiting it, if there's not many people posting. HWI however, is constantly updated with releases, concert reviews and photos, tours, as well as updates on other artists. How anyone can say it is bordering on the obsolete is beyond me. Yes, artists do have official websites, myspace, facebook etc, but if there are enough people interested in forums like these, then they will continue to serve a purpose. Personally, I prefer the intimate nature of this forum. I think HWI serves a huge purpose - bringing together people from all over the world, sharing their thoughts on all things Hayley. Many of us have been lucky enough to see Hayley in concert and meet her in person. Some people haven't been that fortunate. For them, I'm sure just seeing other members' excellent reviews and photographs from a concert or signing, brings them much closer to their idol. On the main HWI page, Hayley says of her fans "I really value all my fans support...they're amazing...helping to promote my work and spread the word...I've got a great fan site, called HWI...they know what I'm doing before I do, its great!" Seems like Hayley appreciates us being here
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