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Post by stevemacdonald on Jul 18, 2008 2:15:48 GMT
On a lighter note, the "Bikes for Ghana" has me wondering just what those bicycles look like. Is Hayley's face or logo stamped on them somehow? Have any of the Hayley-bought bikes shown up on eBay for auction (and you know there would be significant interest!)? It seems to me that after the bikes have worn out they would enjoy a second life as a collector's trophy among Hayley fans. The money from such auctions could go to procuring even more bikes for Ghana! Silly as it sounds, I think there's a real possibility here.
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Post by howard on Jul 18, 2008 9:22:30 GMT
Roger,
First off, I love this site, it's great and everyone here is wonderful, yes including the staff.
I feel welcome, and enjoy making contributions and get information, and as well it is great to be able to say what you want of course without the obvious, rudeness,etc.
But since I have been a member here, I really couldn't pin point why I felt left out.
And seeing your post that I question it opened my eyes.
(I was trying to cut and past but still not sure how I do that, so I will write it out).
But with all fairness, and I do apologize, and this should be for another topic.
However, Drew did ask about UNICEF specifically the UK
and you specifically answered his UK question.
And like Jon said in the beginning this site was more set for the UK.
But you have named or changed the site name to international.
And I feel staff answers should be based for international.
Maybe your answer could have added that "we will also do a check for other countries"
But then again maybe I should have done that on my own.
But this site includes the world, it is not HW-UK.
And just a thought with all the concerts that there are in the UK, and basically Hayley performs at the same places.
Maybe the site should offer information to members outside the UK, hotels with phone numbers to stay, the closes airport, etc., for that particular concert.
Better yet, since there are alot of members outside the UK, maybe a staff member from the UK can go to a local travel agent and set up a good repore with to be able to have outside members to be able to make a call and set up some kind of package deal with the travel agent, (including flight, hotel, rent a car, etc)., close to where the concert will be held. And possibly
to be able to purchase tickets for the show at the same place.
But then again with all fairness is that what any website should do?
And that is all this is, just a website, but one that I and I am sure others who want to be a part and support Hayley.
I just feel the staff should think outside the UK.
Again all fairness this UNICEF thing could have been a bad example, but there are other points that I can make.
But I do see that I am waaaaaay off topic.
Thank You for Your Understanding,
Howard
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Post by roger on Jul 18, 2008 11:29:47 GMT
Hi Howard, Drew's post referred to the fact that he had reason to contact UNICEF UK and my reply was made accordingly. I saw no reason at the time to elaborate on the issue as it concerned the possibility of reclaiming UK tax. Most significantly, Drew did not ask a question; he posted information that he had researched for the benefit of all members who may find it helpful. Had any non-UK member wished to acquire similar information about their own country's tax laws, it was up to them to make the necessary enquiries from the appropriate quarters as Drew had done. It was not my responsibility to do it for you and it certainly does not fall within the reason for HWI's existance. I would point out that those two posts were made nearly two years ago. With regard to the request that Staff should be more international and that our answers should reflect that, I would point out that we have two Global Moderators in the US (Caitlin and Joe), one in France (Stephany) and one in New Zealand (Belinda). Out of a team of nine, I don't think that is unreasonable especially considering the countries where Hayley has most often appeared. Most of the information given on this forum to the best of our knowledge and belief is equally appropriate throughout the world. By necessity, a small proportion of the discussion is more significant to some areas than to others. To provide the service that you require about airports, hotels and the like, HWI would need more staff than we have members. If questions concerning travel and accomodation are asked, it is up to all members to reply if they are able - it is not my responsibility to seek such information on your behalf. That said, all Staff members endeavour to answer such questions whenever possible in an attempt to be helpful but any further expectation upon us is, at best, unreasonable. But this site includes the world, it is not HW-UK. This site has always been fully international to the degree that we give information about Hayley's appearances throughout the world provided it is made available to us by Bedlam Management, or members (not just staff) locate details from any reliable source. HWI's prime objective is to provide information about Hayley and related topics, and to support her in any way we can. The forum is merely a platform for public discussion. If members wish a higher level of international coverage and information about any relevant topic, it is up to them to provide it. If anyone wishes to pursue this discussion further, please start a new thread on the Suggestions board.Thanks, Roger |
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Post by Stephany on Jul 18, 2008 15:13:24 GMT
Hi Paulo and everyone, This video is now also on the official website of UNICEF New Zealand: www.unicef.org.nz/Stephany  |
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Post by Oksana on Jul 18, 2008 15:26:26 GMT
I thought that clip was absolutely lovely!  I completely admire Hayley for supporting Unicef... As Grant mentioned, she is obviously very sincere when she speaks, which makes her message all the more powerful. Great to hear Songbird again, too.  Oksy |
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Post by Joe on Jul 19, 2008 4:19:08 GMT
Yes indeed. Hayley spoke from the heart. She has given a voice to those in need.
How fitting, too, are the lyrics for "Songbird"... "for you, there will be no crying".
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Post by Dori on Jul 19, 2008 22:14:41 GMT
I don't understand why they never show Hayley's Unicef ads on NZ television!! It's so annoying, that you have this wonderful NZer doing something huge for the world, and it goes unnoticed by people of her own nation.
Really upsetting.
Dori
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Post by roger on Jul 19, 2008 22:28:03 GMT
Hi Dori, For any organisation to advertise on national television costs a fortune every time the advert is screened - literally several thousand dollars. Being a charity, I can understand why UNICEF would not want to do that. If you are saying that UNICEF do advertise but not Hayley's ads, then I'm with you - I don't understand it either.  Roger |
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Post by Dori on Jul 19, 2008 22:34:09 GMT
Hi Roger,
Yes, that was percisely my point. They advertize Unicef with this cold, cold woman. Hayley's warm, and speaking from the heart, whereas this other woman is clearly rehearsed.
I know how much it costs to show a primetime ad, as I myself worked in the media. In NZ it could average around 70,000 to 80,000 a minute.
But I still don't understand.
Dori
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Post by roger on Jul 19, 2008 22:51:05 GMT
Hi Dori, Phew, that is even dearer than I expected.  I can only suggest that you contact UNICEF NZ and ask them. You may be able to convince them that Hayley's ad might encourage more people to donate. Good luck! Roger |
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Post by Dori on Jul 19, 2008 23:21:09 GMT
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Post by Belinda on Jul 20, 2008 8:35:12 GMT
Dori ,
They have only just changed the ad on their website
Which i had known they were going to do for a few weeks
I dont think they will leave the old ad on for long when they have a new one .
Give them a chance,
Belinda
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Post by Belinda on Jul 23, 2008 12:53:44 GMT
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Post by Stephany on Jul 23, 2008 13:01:27 GMT
Hi Belinda,
Thank you very much for informing us about this. This is of course wonderful news!
Stephany
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Post by grant on Jul 23, 2008 13:22:16 GMT
Hello Belinda and Stephany You've just reminded me that I remembered to mention to Hayley having seen this on Utube, and how well we all thought it came over, when we spoke after the Kilworth concert. I'd meant to mention it to her at Dunstable but was too busy taking pictures! Hayley told me that she hadn't seen it yet. Love Grant |
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I completely admire Hayley for supporting Unicef... As Grant mentioned, she is obviously very sincere when she speaks, which makes her message all the more powerful. Great to hear Songbird again, too. 
