triniti

[Dave]

sal said:

Having just bought the Triniti album, I looked at the tracklisting and had a little thought. I can't remember the rules exactly - and I'm sure it won't - but is there any chance that it will be eligible for the classical charts and effect Hayley's position at the top?

Hi Sal,

At least 60% of the playing time (probably 8 tracks) needs to be "classical" to get in the UK classical charts, so if 6 of the 13 tracks aren't "classical" it is unlikey to qualify.

Classical means the backing instruments must be exclusively classical, with no pop beats, no pop or electronic drumming etc., and the song must be composed by a "recognised classical composer". For example, the Sting song wouldn't qualify even if the arrangement and instruments were entirely classical - which they aren't.

Judging by the samples on their official website www.trinitimusic.com I'd say they possibly come into the "Il Divo" category of classical crossover, or even just 'easy listening'(?) but not classical... but what do you think Sal?

Incidentally, early sales reports indicate that they could enter the top 40 of the main album chart next Sunday... Hayley is currently no. 68 (and no. 1 'classical artist') but of course, Hayley regularly enters the top 10 or top 20 of the UK album chart in her first week.

Cheers, Dave

[sal]

From your explanation and from what I initially thought, I don't think it will go into the classical charts, but I've read on another board that it went to No1 in the Irish classical charts. I can't find an actual record of this and I suppose the Irish charts may have different regulations to the UK?

[Dave]

Hi Sal,

Yes the Triniti did go to no.. 1 in the Irish Classical Chart (and are still there) but as you suggest, the chart rules are different in Ireland. For example, Vittorio Grigolo, Elvis Costello and Ronan Tynan were all allowed in the Irish classical chart with their latest albums (but not in the UK)... and Il Divo and G4 were excluded (as in the UK). So Irish classical rules let more albums in than the UK - but less than the US classical crossover, Canadian and Australian classical charts.

As I've only heard half a dozen samples from Triniti, I won't be able to say what will happen until Sunday evening, your guess is probably better than mine... but if they do get in, they will probably be no. 1.

Cheers, Dave

[Dave]

Triniti did not qualify for the new UK Classical Artist chart and therefore, Hayley remains at no. 1 for the tenth successive week.

But Triniti did enter the main album chart as expected, they are no. 32!

Dave

[nicola]

Hi all,

Tiniti are in the top 20 in the Woolworths and Tesco charts, so expect their chart position to raise. Especially after all the media attention and advertising.

I have their album. At first, I thought it sounded like one of those cheap irish compilation albums where they have random people singing different songs, but I got really into it after a while.

Individual vocals sound utterly amazing on this disc, but it's a rare treat. They are normally all singing and it sounds as if they are swallowed my production. This isn't always a bad thing (think Enya). It does sound nice, but nothing outstanding. But like I said before... the solo vocals are stunning. I think they all have good voices, they are just aiming to sound a bit like Enya. That, and I believe Louis Walsh is behind them, and we all know what he is capable of, I may be wrong. But they managed by pop gurus.

[Dave]

nicola said:

Hi all,

Tiniti are in the top 20 in the Woolworths and Tesco charts, so expect their chart position to raise. Especially after all the media attention and advertising.

I have their album. At first, I thought it sounded like one of those cheap irish compilation albums where they have random people singing different songs, but I got really into it after a while.

Individual vocals sound utterly amazing on this disc, but it's a rare treat. They are normally all singing and it sounds as if they are swallowed my production. This isn't always a bad thing (think Enya). It does sound nice, but nothing outstanding. But like I said before... the solo vocals are stunning. I think they all have good voices, they are just aiming to sound a bit like Enya. That, and I believe Louis Walsh is behind them, and we all know what he is capable of, I may be wrong. But they managed by pop gurus.

Hi Nicola... I know what you mean by "over produced", someone bought me "Il Divo" for Fathers Day (I wanted Sissel, quite a difference!) This seems to happen every time pop gurus get hold of a classical crossover act and I think it's sad because as you say, they all have at least one or two fine voices in their line-ups... who then struggle to be heard underneath all the layers.

I think the promo and publicity for Triniti was timed to get the highest chart position in week one (#32) so unless they have a couple of big TV shows lined up this week (or had some last week), they have probably already peaked in the chart.

Cheers, Dave

[nicola]

Well, the girls have officially made it to number #28 this week. Well done girls, that's the top 30! It should only go up next week. I've keep seeing their advert on TV (and it's a corker)!

I don't think it will ever reach the top 10, but top 20 might just be on the cards if they are lucky.

[fusilier23]

Friendly and beautiful are definite pluses, but I think I'll wait till their music hits on this side of the Atlantic. If I'm going to import anything it would be Pzazz' album, which should hit soon, shouldn't it?