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Post by stevemacdonald on Sept 27, 2011 17:10:54 GMT
Please vote in this poll.
A few fans have suggested that Hayley's live performances ought to be preserved for the record, and I tend to agree. But I see other sides to this issue, such the the dilemma of capturing a concert on an "off night" when things aren't at their best. Even if the fans love the show, Hayley may wish to forget the experience completely. No doubt some auditoriums sound better than others, so quality is always going to be a factor, too.
Where do you stand on this matter? Should all her concerts be recorded? Vote or register your opinion here.
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Post by grant on Sept 27, 2011 18:02:44 GMT
A few fans have suggested that Hayley's live performances ought to be preserved for the record, and I tend to agree. But I see other sides to this issue, such the the dilemma of capturing a concert on an "off night" when things aren't at their best. Even if the fans love the show, Hayley may wish to forget the experience completely. No doubt some auditoriums sound better than others, so quality is always going to be a factor, too. Hi Steve, Comet and everyone I also agree with the idea of recording Hayley's concerts and we don't actually know that they're not - or at least some of them. Regarding the quality of performance/venue - if the concert has been recorded the decision can always be made afterwards not to keep it - or it may actually be of benefit to Hayley who may be able to learn something from it. If a good concert is NOT recorded, it's not much use saying afterwards "We should have recorded that for posterity!" Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Libby on Sept 27, 2011 19:41:08 GMT
But, how do you know when Hayley is or isn't going to have an "off" night? You at least record all of them, and then decide from there if they're "good enough" to be sold. How about that? I voted Yes!!
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Post by Sing on Sept 27, 2011 20:52:41 GMT
But, how do you know when Hayley is or isn't going to have an "off" night? You at least record all of them, and then decide from there if they're "good enough" to be sold. How about that? I voted Yes!! . I agree Libby! I vote yes. Sing |
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Post by comet on Sept 27, 2011 20:58:43 GMT
For the sake of the price of a memory key or a disc I think ALL concerts should be recorded.
Who knows when a little piece of magic will happen, like at venue Cymru with Elgan Thomas.
Who knows in advance when it is going to be a good night or a bad night.
Even recordings of an off night may have a couple of good songs on it.
I was not suggesting they should all be recorded with the intention of distributing them or selling them. but they should be recorded anyway. Who knows what will happen in the future, even the very near future. As Rod Stewart sings "You may never get another chance......
But after a tour of lets say ten concerts with almost the same song list at each venue a "best of Winter Magic" tour could be compiled out of the ten recordings, giving multiple options or takes for each song.
A recording from the mixing desk is very different to "What you hear" in the auditorium which depends on the PA system and the acoustics of the building and where you are sitting and the people around you coughing and spluttering, opening sweets, chatting and creaking their seats, or even singing, whistling or humming along.
For instance the Shepherd's Bush concert, most of us are familiar with the recordings that were made by Hayley fans at the concert, the noise in the background is dreadful, If that had been recorded from the mixing desk, most, if not all of that noise would not be present on the recording.
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Post by stevemacdonald on Sept 28, 2011 14:32:55 GMT
...I also agree with the idea of recording Hayley's concerts and we don't actually know that they're not - or at least some of them. ... It's highly likely someone in the audience has a digital recorder on hand and it's also likely that "bootleg" versions of some concerts are in the possession of many fans. I doubt that all (or even most of) Hayley's shows are recorded professionally on site, due to the psychological pressures it would place on the performers. Some gigs just live in the moment and aren't meant to be heard twice. That expectation allows for more spontaneous energy than always wondering how it's going to sound on replay. For me the best concert recordings aren't done through the soundboard with all "noises" removed; rather, give an immersion effect of being one in the crowd. I want a concert to be a concert, not an attempt to get it right for the record. |
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Post by comet on Sept 28, 2011 17:19:34 GMT
and what about people who for financial, health, family or geographical reasons cannot ever make it to a concert.
Should they eternally be denied the pleasure of even a recording ?
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Post by cloudbusting.heights on Sept 28, 2011 18:31:50 GMT
Yeppies!!!!!! That way the folks who cannot attend her concerts (b/c of location, time, money, etc.) can still have an opportunity to "see" the concert  |
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Post by comet on Sept 28, 2011 21:08:29 GMT
It's highly likely someone in the audience has a digital recorder on hand and it's also likely that "bootleg" versions of some concerts are in the possession of many fans. For me the best concert recordings aren't done through the soundboard with all "noises" removed; rather, give an immersion effect of being one in the crowd. I want a concert to be a concert, not an attempt to get it right for the record. Are you fishing Steve,  Can you not see the fish in the water, just scoop them out  |
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Post by martindn on Sept 30, 2011 21:23:34 GMT
Yes, for me. I has to be. What are these mythical "off nights" that Hayley is supposed to have? I've been to a lot of her concerts and I can't remember one. Even when I knew she wasn't well, she gave a wonderful performance. If Hayley has "off nights", they are better than most peoples best.
Martin D
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