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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 6, 2009 10:29:15 GMT
I just got the album today and I have to say, I love it. The duet with Hayley is really good (For once she doesn't drown out the person she's singing with, which happens only rarely! ) and a highlight for me as I am a fan of both, but it's just a great album.
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Post by Richard on Jun 8, 2009 17:26:16 GMT
Hello folks! 'Passione' has entered the UK Album Chart at No.5, so it should be No.1 in the Classic FM Chart on Saturday. Congratulations Paul and Hayley! Richard
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Post by gra7890 on Jun 8, 2009 20:40:58 GMT
Amazon have this on offer for £5-98 including P& P. Seems a good deal HEREGraham
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Post by Richard on Jun 9, 2009 7:32:42 GMT
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Post by Dave on Jun 9, 2009 15:55:18 GMT
Hello folks! 'Passione' has entered the UK Album Chart at No.5, so it should be No.1 in the Classic FM Chart on Saturday. Congratulations Paul and Hayley! Richard Hello Richard, The trouble is, there aren't many classical songs on the album so I'll be surprised if it even qualifies for the classical chart. Remember, Simon Cowell's hands are all over this and as a rule, Simon doesn't much do classical charting. His debut album One Chance sold over 128,000 copies in its first week in the UK nearly two years ago and Passione sold 18,000 copies in its first week, which is more typical of Hayley's UK albums. So although it's good for Hayley to be on the album, it isn't going to make either of them a fortune... most of the original fans seem to have moved on (perhaps to newer Britain's Got Talent acts?). What surprises me is that Paul appeared on BGT on the Friday night before the release date in front of a massive TV audience and that should have generated massive sales for the album last week but unfortunately, by normal standards, it didn't. As for an English singer making an entire album of songs (which mostly have excellent English lyrics) in a foreign language, well I am baffled as the practice tends to irritate me, I hope Hayley doesn't ever do that. A song or two maybe... but an entire album? My personal opinion on that is that it was a mistake. Still a nice album though. Cheers, Dave
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Post by Libby on Jun 10, 2009 5:00:06 GMT
Well, classical seems to be what Paul likes and is good at, so why would Simon prevent him from doing anything different? If he only wants to deal with pop singers, he shouldn't be on a variety talent show like that. But it's nice to know that Simon must've liked Hayley enough to allow her on the album! Oh, and, if Simon is Il Divo's manager/agent, whatever, he must've had some say in inviting her on their tour, right?
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Post by Jeff on Jun 10, 2009 9:30:29 GMT
Yes Dave it seems to be the fashion at the moment to translate pop songs from the 60s and 70s into another language. usually Italian. I can't get used to "Whiter shade of pale" in anything other than English !
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Post by roger on Jun 10, 2009 9:34:20 GMT
Hi Jeff, But 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' doesn't even make sense in English so what does it matter what language it is in? Roger
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Post by Dave on Jun 10, 2009 12:42:56 GMT
Hi Libby and everyone, I'm not suggesting that Simon Cowell is anything other than good at selling records, he's very good indeed - but of course he does it primarily by getting huge amounts of "free" TV exposure for his artists and when that ends, their sales usually go through the floor as they then have to compete on equal terms with all the other singers and bands. There are one or two exceptions but no more than that. Why hasn't he allowed his artists like Paul Potts to make records that qualify for the UK classical charts? Assuming that this one doesn't, I think it's because he thinks he can sell more by opening them up to a much wider range of songs than he could find in the classical repertoire, and converting them into a "classical style" and whose to say he's wrong? Not me, though it's not generally to my taste. His "Fake Italian Ballad or Opera" method is I think just a development of that, the man just wants to sell lots of records to the mass market who wouldn't know Handel from Wagner, and it works for a while. Who knows if it will work long-term for Paul Potts & Co? Not me! Yes Dave it seems to be the fashion at the moment to translate pop songs from the 60s and 70s into another language. usually Italian. I can't get used to "Whiter shade of pale" in anything other than English ! Yes indeed Jeff, me too! And it can sometimes work like that in reverse, if a foreign language song becomes popular before an English version is released, the translation doesn't always work for me. Roger, may I take it that you don't skip the light fandango before breakfast, or turn cartwheels 'cross the floor? Cheers, Dave
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Post by Richard on Jun 10, 2009 13:34:30 GMT
Definitely not. He'd be feeling kinda seasick, and the crowd wouldn't call out for more! Richard
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Post by Jeff on Jun 11, 2009 9:50:18 GMT
For those of you who don't know, the song describes the emotions and fantasies experienced when drunk.........at least I think so !
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Post by martindn on Jun 11, 2009 21:47:23 GMT
Drunk?? I always thought it was something stronger and altogether more hallunicatory!!
Martin
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Post by Joe on Jun 12, 2009 5:03:25 GMT
Hi all,
There is a good supply of this CD at my local Wal-mart. It was priced about $11 so that is a very good deal!
Cheers, Joe
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Post by nicola on Nov 11, 2009 21:44:12 GMT
I don't like Paul Potts much (at all, even), so I wasn't even aware that Hayley did this. I borrowed Passione from my library to review it, and was surprised to find Hayley on there, not only that, but performing one of my favourite songs. I was really disappointed with the rendition though. I have known the Sarah Brightman and José Cura version for seven years and love the arrangement - the main issue was having Paul sing instead of José. If Hayley performed that song with him, that would be heaven. Loved Hayley doing that song. Passione is not as bad as 'One Chance' but I dislike both so much I think I have to opt out or reviewing them for now - I don't think I can do it objectively. It's not really Paul Potts himself, he's alright, but that's it. Overhyped and his albums are lazy. Simon Cowell just copies Sarah Brightman with all of his artists and it really gets on my nerves. Most artists in crossover are influenced by her (Hayley included), but they don't outright copy her techniques and do little else (Hayley adapted 'What You Never Know'). I'm not just talking about the songs she does, but techniques she came up with (such as converting very popular pop songs into Italian - I now wish she hadn't done that though I'm sure someone else would have come up with it). Cowell just overkills it. Intense. Dislike. Cowell. I feel this way very strongly about Il Divo as well. Same trick over and over. Argh. Sorry about all the negativity. Bottom line is, Hayley did a superb job, just wish it was recorded with someone else. P.S. I haven't read this thread at all, but I did catch someone saying as I scrolled down that if Potts wants to sing classical, why shouldn't Simon let him? Paul Potts said on BGT that he wants to sing opera. He hasn't touched it since the Cowell. I don't think Potts is doing that he wants to do. Obviously wants the fame, but if his earlier ambition holds, he wants to be in an opera house, not singing 'Whiter Shade of Pale' (Brightman crossed that song over first too) in Italian.
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