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Post by Paddy on Nov 22, 2007 20:50:25 GMT
I found her comment about some fans thinking she's absolutely perfect particularly interesting. I've suspected for a long time that it's an image she's not too happy with, and I think this comes across in her book.  Hi Richard I've just listened to that part of the interview again. What Hayley actually says is that she feels she's placed higher than she should be by some fans and that she's not perfect. Isn't she just being her normal humble self?Best wishes Grant I think I agree with you yet again, Grant and Richard. Did you notice that Hayley said, 'I'm lucky' twice, before she made the comments? I think Hayley was appreciative of her fans' 'following' her (despite her not being 'that perfect'), when she made the comments. (In contrast to the other type of 'fans', mentioned later in the interview) Paddy |
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Post by Paddy on Nov 22, 2007 21:15:25 GMT
Hi Paddy and Grant, Yes, this video remains one of my favourites no matter what really happened. Listening to Hayley singing 'Abide with me' a cappela is very special and I can only imagine what it would be live on stage....with the real lyrics!  Love,  Stephany Hi Stephany, It's a lovely hymn but I find it very sad .... Soon after I joined HWI, it was being played in honour of Simon, whom I never had the privilege to know. But it's also his reminder to continue his good work for HWI and Hayley. Paddy |
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Post by david on Nov 22, 2007 22:32:40 GMT
Hi Stephany & all,  Many thanks for the link to the interview, some very interesting and insightful comments from Hayley there. Don't think I want to add too much to what has already been said here, except that, whilst I admit to sometimes being something of a perfectionist when it comes to myself, ultimately it's not perfection and never making mistakes in life that count as much as how you deal with those mistakes and learn from them (and I've certainly made a fair few mistakes in life!!). The important thing is that we admire Hayley and support her in what she does. Hope I've not said anything out of place here!! Best wishes David  |
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Post by James on Nov 22, 2007 23:33:15 GMT
Thanks for spotting and posting this interview. There’s a couple of interesting points made in this interview and the subsequent comments on this forum, so I thought I’d add my $0.02 worth:
Firstly, the talk of Hayley being a perfectionist and of making the “error” in Abide With Me. I’m sure any mistakes get magnified in the performer’s mind, particularly as they will notice it as they know the piece so well. I remember seeing an interview with the guitarist Julian Breem who said that to get a piece up to concert standard could take him up to a year – by which stage every bar will have been practiced and analysed in excruciating detail so that any slight difference from the perceived “perfection” of the piece is noted in the performer’s mind. The professionalism comes in when you know you’ve made a mistake or not performed the piece perfectly but carry on almost seamlessly as Hayley manages here. I’ve seen Jon Bon Jovi forget the words before, and he didn’t cover it up nearly as well! I’m sure as a perfectionist that is what drives people to keep improving – I wonder if Hayley has ever sung a piece “perfectly” in a studio or whether the producer has to make the call that it is close enough. Remember that quest to continue to improve is what sets out very successful people from others in music, sport or any other field, and as Hayley mentions in the book, she learns more from mistakes than seamless performances such as the time she couldn’t hear the backing properly, and subsequently always insists on a sound check.
In terms of putting Hayley on a pedestal, I must admit I have been a bit concerned with some of the comments posted on this forum from time to time that seem make Hayley out to be more than she is and I can see where she’s coming from. I remember Chris W making a comment a while ago about the biography that a few members perceived as somewhat negative and he got shot down by some members for expressing an opinion.
If you are reading this thread Hayley, I certainly don’t put you on a pedestal, though I enjoy listening to your music and seeing you perform, and admire what you’ve achieved and the maturity you’ve shown. However, I’m sure that things you do or say in the future will not meet the expectations/opinions of some people on this forum (and elsewhere) be it in your private life, interviews, clothes, choice of song material or charities/causes you support etc and that’s fine. It must be very scary to have people analyse and record everything you say and do, but as long as the singing and performances keep up to the standard we’ve seen recently, that’s all that really matters and you shouldn’t feel any additional pressure. I’m sure I, and many others, disagree with your opinions and choices on a lot of things!
Best Wishes,
James
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Post by grant on Nov 23, 2007 0:31:49 GMT
'Abide with me' a cappela is very special and I can only imagine what it would be live on stage....with the real lyrics! Love, Stephany Just awesome Stephany!  Hayley singing it for me at Telford was the highlight of my 'Hayley year' and I hope everyone of her fans can experience that feeling at least once. Ah! but then I remember the emotion of 'Sonny' at Shepherds Bush!  Lots of Love Grant |
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Post by grant on Nov 23, 2007 0:46:35 GMT
Hi James
Your comments remind me of something from Hayley's first book "The World At Her Feet". I don't remember the song that it applied to, but she was going to be recording this particularly difficult song and would not talk so as to conserve her voice, choosing to comunicate by written notes. The end result being that she managed to get the difficult notes.
That may not be perfection, but hey, that's real dedication to an objective in my book!
Best wishes
Grant
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Post by graemek on Nov 23, 2007 2:14:12 GMT
The World At Her Feet". ..........but hey, that's real dedication to an objective in my book! Best wishes Grant Hey Grant, I thought it was her book,  Graeme |
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Post by Stephany on Nov 23, 2007 6:47:16 GMT
Ah! but then I remember the emotion of 'Sonny' at Shepherds Bush! Hello Grant, That's true, but for 'Sonny' I suppose that the 'surprise' effect was stronger than the 'emotion' one. Also, Shepherds Bush was not the most appropriate venue for such a sad song. Had I been with you with Telford, I'm not ashamed to say that I would have cried James, as usual your post is very concise and well put. And, as usual, I agree with most of it. I also think that as 'fans', we mainly want to see the good in Hayley's performances and this implies that we may loose our sense of criticism. Lots of love, Stephany xx |
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Hayley singing it for me at Telford was the highlight of my 'Hayley year' and I hope everyone of her fans can experience that feeling at least once.
