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Post by Stephany on May 16, 2007 11:32:05 GMT
Hello,  Hayley is featured in the latest issue of The Daily Express. Here is the article but there's nothing new at all. It's still great to see that British newspapers continue to promote her work even though she's away from the country. Best wishes, Stephany |
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Post by petertong on May 16, 2007 13:05:13 GMT
Hi Stephany, I think its great that Hayley is looking into her family history! I think she will be presently suprised by what she finds One of her Westenra ancestors/cousins back in Ireland really got into one of the Irish instruments (I forget what it was at this point will have to go back and look) and writing music for it. The branch of the Westenra family that Hayley descends from arrived in NZ on October 7, 1851... I wonder if there are others on this board that have also been bitten by the Genealogy bug? best, Peter T PS: Any Americans that descend from gateway ancestor(s) and sisters Anne Marbury Hutchinson and Katherine Marbury Scott are also distantly related to our singer Hayley W. I descend from Katherine... one part of the Marbury line goes into Ireland (Earls of Ormonde)... so I guess that makes me Irish/Celtic too  |
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Post by Stephany on May 16, 2007 13:20:45 GMT
Hi Peter, I read on the Celtic Woman site that her family originated from Monaghan, Ireland. But I also remember a radio interview with Bob Brolly (BBC Coventry) where she mentionned Cork County. Does that mean she has Irish ancestors in both regions?  |
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Post by roger on May 16, 2007 13:36:09 GMT
Hi PeterT,
I think we can safely assume that the opening line in the article from the Daily Express should not be taken too literally. Yes, Hayley probably has been made aware of certain details of her ancestry and I dare say it is of interest to her but I have seen nothing to suggest that she has actively researched it herself. She simply would not have the time.
I feel it necessary at this time to request that only very general information concerning Hayley's family background should be published here - that which is freely available elsewhere. The result of any private research should not be posted to this forum as is not HWI's place to bring specific details into the public domain.
Thanks,
Roger
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Post by petertong on May 16, 2007 14:00:32 GMT
Hi PeterT, I think we can safely assume that the opening line in the article from the Daily Express should not be taken too literally. Yes, Hayley probably has been made aware of certain details of her ancestry and I dare say it is of interest to her but I have seen nothing to suggest that she has actively researched it herself. She simply would not have the time. I feel it necessary at this time to request that only very general information concerning Hayley's family background should be published here - that which is freely available elsewhere. The result of any private research should not be posted to this forum as is not HWI's place to bring specific details into the public domain. Thanks, Roger Hi Roger, I do totally agree with you... I hope that Hayley does indeed find the time someday...as its frankly an amazing exercise. I had absolutely no interest in it myself until about Nov last year... perhaps different people get to that point at different points in their lives (to know where they came from in terms of families)... and the same will be true of Hayley. best, Peter T. |
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Post by postscript on May 16, 2007 14:21:15 GMT
The 'nothing new at all' isn't important. That she is promoted when she isn't here is great, as you say, Stephany but it is the exposure that matters.
Peter S.
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Post by postscript on May 16, 2007 14:22:59 GMT
You too have a very interesting history, Peter T.
Why not tell us more?
Peter S.
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Post by petertong on May 18, 2007 6:43:17 GMT
Hi Peter, I read on the Celtic Woman site that her family originated from Monaghan, Ireland. But I also remember a radio interview with Bob Brolly (BBC Coventry) where she mentionned Cork County. Does that mean she has Irish ancestors in both regions? hi Stephany, I don't know about Cork Cty, but here is an old print of Rossmore Park... afaik this dwelling no longer exists... www.oldprints.co.uk/prints/birds/morris/ms117.htmIts been at least 350 years since they came from Holland and settled in Ireland, so I'm sure there are a ton of descendants... Hope this helps, Peter T. |
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Post by Stephany on May 18, 2007 6:45:33 GMT
Wow - this is an amazing picture! Thanks for sharing, Peter. It must be very interesting for Hayley to re-trace her Irish origins. I'm sure she would if she had more time. |
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Post by petertong on May 18, 2007 7:03:08 GMT
Wow - this is an amazing picture! Thanks for sharing, Peter. It must be very interesting for Hayley to re-trace her Irish origins. I'm sure she would if she had more time. hi Stephany, I'm doing my best to trace my own family tree - it gets very difficult at times tracking things down. Esp once things get into the early 1600s or thereabouts. I always have a bunch of items on my "toughie" list with regards to certain branches. Each of these toughies ends up being a rather large research project in and of itself. Frankly, I really cannot see Hayley having the time... but who knows! |
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Post by Joe on May 18, 2007 7:20:46 GMT
I'm doing my best to trace my own family tree - it gets very difficult at times tracking things down. Esp once things get into the early 1600s or thereabouts. I always have a bunch of items on my "toughie" list with regards to certain branches. Each of these toughies ends up being a rather large research project in and of itself. This is intereresting, Peter T...I remember making a post a few years ago on Hayley's family tree. I'll have to search it out... edit... FOUND IT! |
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Post by petertong on May 18, 2007 7:31:25 GMT
I'm doing my best to trace my own family tree - it gets very difficult at times tracking things down. Esp once things get into the early 1600s or thereabouts. I always have a bunch of items on my "toughie" list with regards to certain branches. Each of these toughies ends up being a rather large research project in and of itself. This is intereresting, Peter T...I remember making a post a few years ago on Hayley's family tree. I'll have to search it out... Hi Joe, You know you have gone bonkers with regards to this stuff when you know where everyone and their brothers on a certain branch are buried... and that this sibling was buried next to their mother, etc... and why they "dyed" (in old english speak)... Peter |
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Post by petertong on Jun 2, 2007 18:34:07 GMT
You too have a very interesting history, Peter T. Why not tell us more? Peter S. Okay... slightly delayed answer to this one. I've only found all this out since this past Nov. and partly due to a posting on the official Hayley board by a poster from Nova Scotia back then. I'm 1/2 Chinese, 3/8th English (surnames Hatfield, Keen, Vining), 1/8th Scottish (surname Fraser) if you go back 3 generations. Mother descends from a Captain John Hatfield (British Army - 43rd Regiment of Foot) loyalist who fought with General Cornwallis back in the Revolutionary War in the 3rd New Jersey Volunteers. Of course the loyalists were not treated well after they lost (many had all their property confiscated, were kicked out and end up as refugees). The King gave many of these Loyalists tracts of land up in Nova Scotia, Canada... of which one was this Captain (I have a copy of the map - 700 acres), and that is where they lived the rest of their lives out, having many children, etc. The Keenes, and Vinings and everyone on their trees pretty much descend from the earliest settlers in Massachussetts in the 1620-1650s. Two or three of them having arrived on the Mayflower in 1620. I have not traced the origins of the Frasers yet. I will likely need to access British Military records for that. My Grandfathers mother's grandmother was a Zerviah Knowlton who descends from the Jenks and Olney families of Rhode Island., Zerviah's mother Rachel Olney's mother was a Catherine Scott and descended from Katherine Marbury born in London. For us Americans, Katherine is called a Gateway Ancestor since her lineage is well documented back to England. Now why is this on this board... well a few generations up or so (no I won't say how many) Hayley and I have a common ancestor (and lots after that)... so that makes me and everyone descended from Katherine Marbury distant cousins to Hayley. I probably am related to many of the folks on this board as well since mostly UK/Irish folks seem to post here. Send me the names of your great great grand parents and I'd count it fun to see if we are related somehow. I've done that with some random folks with English sounding names that I've met and have found out we are like 9th/10th cousins LOL. I'm also descended from the Spencers and so am distantly related to the Prince Harry and William. Prior to that Edward III... How's that for an answer! PS: I love reading family history so if you know yours please post it up! |
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Post by Richard on Jun 3, 2007 8:06:26 GMT
Thanks for sharing your fascinating family history, Peter!  This thread is really about Hayley's Celtic roots, so if other members want to share their family history, please start a new thread on the Off-Topic board, unless you have a link with Hayley like Peter!  Many thanks, Richard  |
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Post by Stephany on Jun 4, 2007 20:35:07 GMT
Another very similar article has recently been published by "The News of the World". I find the title very misleading and I doubt Hayley said it in those words.  |
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