I don't think we should place too much importance on the number of "International Releases" though, as we have no idea what came out of the 2005 contract renegotiation and it may no longer be relevant.
Er, except I spoke about "the five-album deal" to both Steve Abbott and Ian Tilley after the renegotiation and neither of them corrected me. I feel sure they would have done if that detail had changed.
I don't think we can assume that they'd have corrected you Roger, they may or they may not have done. We don't even know for sure exactly which of the more recent albums form part of whatever the number is. I'm just saying that we shouldn't place too much emphasis on album counting as we don't know the ins and outs of the contract as it currently stands. And they renegotiated once, they may have done it again. As Patrick Moore might say "we just don't know".
Now if someone were to ask him the next time he appears at a concert "how many albums are left in the contract, Steve?" and actually get a response other than wagged finger, things might be different...
I think Hayley will be quite pleased with the performance of Winter Magic. I believe the album and tour are Hayley's way of enjoying and sharing the Christmas spirit with her fans, in which case any chart success will be a bonus.
I was wondering about that, Elliot, since somebody (maybe it was you) mentioned that earlier on.
Well, here's a quote from Hayley in "The World at Her Feet": "...sing stuff you're excited about, not just earn as much money as you can as soon as you can". That's a very good point, and maybe she doesn't want to risk being too famous, otherwise she'll lose more privacy. But people are missing out on something wonderful by not being aware of her.
Well, guys, I think it is understandable that we Brits don't much like Christmas albums. The reason is we have had some pretty dire ones. Years ago, I usedto groan inwardly whenever Christmas came around, knowing that the quality of the music I would be hearing on the radio for the next month or so would be uniformly awful.
These days , things are a bit better. Even so, I'm not sure Britain is ready for a quality Chistmas Album yet. This year there is one, but of course nobody knows it exists. So things won't change.
What is needed is an agressive stance that promotes something better than al the dross that exists - for heavens sake most of it is decades old. We can and should do something better, and Hayley is one singer who could break the mould. But she won't do it if her record company no longer believes in her.
I think Decca owe us a statement. Do they or do they not believe in Hayley now? If the answer is yes they should put their money where their mouth is. If no, then they should release her to work with somebody who does!
An album of original Xmas songs might go down very well, if they are of the calibre of Fairytale Of New York (The Pogues & Kirsty McColl) or Christmas Time (Don't Let The Bells End) (The Darkness). But even Twisted Sister didn't bother releasing A Twisted Christmas in the UK, and that's probably the best Xmas album of all time - not least because they actually do something (Very!) different with the old standbys.
Failing a very high level of originality, though... Well, as Martin says, we are used to rubbish, so that's what we expect. And who wastes their money on stuff they expect to be bad?
Winter Magic has slipped from no. 9 to no. 10 in the UK Classical Artist Chart this week. It has also slipped out of the Top 100 main albums, which is not unexpected as it was no. 95 last week. We shall have to wait until later in the week to discover the exact position in the top 200.
Incidentally, Faryl's album suffered an unusually steep decline this week, falling from no. 56 to no. 92 in its 2nd week. Camilla has also declined, to no. 87. Not only Hayley is having problems selling albums this Christmas in the UK. There is it would seem far too much else going on and all three have been marginalised.
Whilst the album themes will have had an effect, I still think the release dates were the main problem, they were too close to Christmas. Canmilla was earliest (by a week) and did best; Faryl and Hayley were later and did worst; Hayley's date changed, which just made things worse. If adding the Ronan Keating track caused the delay, it was a mistake to add it.
But it's done now and I would prefer to focus more on Hayley's next album now.
Hmm... it may also be influenced by the poor economical situation. Classical is a minoritary branch of the music business. And, now that the economy's suffering and the consumption is frozen, people go for save buys. If they decide to buy an album, they will mostly look for something they know, the "let's go to see what I find" and "looks interesting, I'll give it a try" shopping is less important now.
I visited peterborough with friends yesterday and slipped into HMV to see what presence Hayley had. I was surprised to find 34 copies of "Winter Magic" and a single copy of "Treasure" - most of which was to be found in their very limited classical section.
However, they had something I'm sure I haven't seen before and that was a 'special interest' chart It contained a bit of everything - pop, classical, sound tracks etc. Hayley's "Winter Magic" was in joint 8th place with Faryl.
I went into my local hmv today and there were loads of copies- at least 40 anyway which is the most i've ever seen ...they didn't have any of Hayley's other albums ...but had all of Katherine Jenkins and Susan Boyle's practically in every part of the shop and some pretty big posters of them in the classical/ movie soundtrack area of the shop:( ... anyway.... according to their list of classic fm chart this week WM is number 5 ... and they've placed it at number 5 in the front of the shop with this weeks releases...i'm very confused now ...and tired lol...as it's almost midnight.//must get to bed lol...
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I think this must be HMV's own "classical" chart Libby. The higher numbers are for the overall chart. Classic FM haven't done a chart this week, since they published their "Chart of the Year" (in which Hayley doesn't feature) instead.
Since HMV is the only store I know of that stocks WM, all of its high street sales will be through them. An anyone who wants a copy will go there to buy it, which might result in a higher chart position than elsewhere.