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Post by gillette on Dec 15, 2012 11:42:04 GMT
Hi Rodders,
Now that is very interesting to know. Dame Kiri comes to mind as a good example of what you say. Have forgotten the name of the music critic, but remember that his trashing of Hayley stirred up quite a few comments, pros and cons, and even a tweet from Hayley something like "I know you don't like me." Since that behavior is so prevalent in NZ, perhaps New Zealanders are able to take it all in stride a little better than an outsider.
Thanks for your explanation.
Kindest regards,
BobS
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 17, 2012 21:33:21 GMT
I think unwarranted negativity is prevalent everywhere, sadly.
There is a certain kind of person who cannot wish other people good fortune for their successes, but must instead envy them and try to drag them down. The mentality appears to be 'how dare they be successful when I am not!' All kind of lousy excuses get trotted out, from 'lack of talent' to 'someone with his/her background has no right to be successful' but it always amounts to the same thing - envy, pure and simple.
It is a very strange type of person, IMO, who would rather spend their time endlessly criticising things (Or people) they hate, instead of talking up those they love. Or envying the success of others, instead of working hard to succeed themselves, in whatever it is they want to be.
Such people are best ignored - left to stew in their own spite, IMO. Hopefully, for their own sake if no other, they will one day learn how to let go of their envy.
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Post by gillette on Dec 17, 2012 22:01:02 GMT
Hi Elliot K -
Re: Negativity
Very well expressed!
BobS
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Post by martindn on Dec 17, 2012 22:05:47 GMT
Yes Elliot I agree.
If you don't like a particular artist, nobody is forcing you to listen to them or attend their concerts. All you need to do is ignore them.
It seems a particular sort of arrogance that tries to tell other people what they should or shouldn't enjoy or listen to. Sometimes it is a form of snobbery we know. And attacking an artist is pointless anyway. If enough people like what they do they will be successful. Otherwise they wont.
If you don't enjoy a particular artist's work, that is your choice and your preference. If that same artist gives pleasure to others, what is wrong with that?
Martin D
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 18, 2012 5:05:57 GMT
Thanks, Bob  *** Completely agree, Martin, yes. |
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Post by comet on Dec 18, 2012 9:44:21 GMT
I did accidentally click on the thumbs down on one of Hayley's You Tube items. The buttons are very close together.
We have all been directed to material that does not impress us, but this is just a matter of taste, or simply the mood we are in, you can't always be positively receptive to something that is placed before you, some things are an a acquired taste.
'One man's meat is another man's poison'
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Post by Richard on Dec 18, 2012 14:14:37 GMT
In France, one man's fish is another man's poisson!  Richard  |
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Post by Jeff on Dec 18, 2012 15:12:17 GMT
Yes and when making a French omelette you don't need 2 eggs because one is always un oeuf ! But surely this is oeuf teaupique !!
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Post by martindn on Dec 18, 2012 16:47:02 GMT
Groan!! Martin D |
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Post by Libby on Dec 19, 2012 5:52:47 GMT
I once saw someone say that, while Hayley has a nice voice, they preferred singers with richer, deeper tones. That was, of course, before Hayley's voice started to improve in those areas. But I think the person meant they like pop singers like Celine Dion or Christina Aguilera. Rather than a soprano. So, while I prefer female voices in the soprano range, or at least sing with some high notes mixed in, some people might not care for high-pitched voices.
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Post by Joe on Dec 19, 2012 7:07:18 GMT
Yes and when making a French omelette you don't need 2 eggs because one is always un oeuf ! But surely this is oeuf teaupique !! Humpty Dumpty is always "a l'oeuf"  Thanks Jeff for being the eggspert. Yes I do realize it's 2 AM  Getting back to this slightly scrambled topic, I agree with Libby's post, as I prefer the female soprano voice. Especially in the CC genre. I suppose it is in compliment to the instrumentation, mainly in accompaniment to the violin, piano, etc. With pop music, we have a heavier weight to the instrumentation i.e. drums and guitar, in this case a mezzo-soprano or even lower is better suited. |
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Post by Libby on Dec 19, 2012 20:59:21 GMT
Now, I don't think Enya is a soprano, but I love her voice as well. She does sing kind of high notes sometimes, but not the way Hayley does. Her lower notes sound good, too. But she's not your regular pop singer, either.
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Post by Bamafan on Dec 20, 2012 1:14:14 GMT
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Post by jameskparker on Dec 20, 2012 1:20:59 GMT
Hi Rodders, Now that is very interesting to know. Dame Kiri comes to mind as a good example of what you say. Have forgotten the name of the music critic, but remember that his trashing of Hayley stirred up quite a few comments, pros and cons, and even a tweet from Hayley something like "I know you don't like me." Since that behavior is so prevalent in NZ, perhaps New Zealanders are able to take it all in stride a little better than an outsider. Thanks for your explanation. Kindest regards, BobS Though... I don't understand how anyone could not recognize Hayley's voice as superior....even if they did not like her style. As it happens with Hayley- I like both her voice and style. As for other singers, I may like either their voice or style but sometimes not both. Those negative people should at least " give the devil their due" so to speak. |
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Post by Libby on Dec 20, 2012 6:42:57 GMT
Well, they did for The Hobbit, unfortunately.  Neil Finn from Crowded House is no Enya or Annie Lennox, much less Hayley! The theme song is probably not going to be my favorite. Instead, I prefer the dwarves' version in the movie (which I am finally going to see tomorrow!!), Misty Mountains. Like here: www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/12/11/67052-exclusive-misty-mountains-clip-from-the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey/I think the only reason they chose him was because he's originally from New Zealand... but then, Hayley's a kiwi, too! I don't think she would fit in this particular one, though. Maybe one of the next 2. But I'm getting very pessimistic about it. |
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Neil Finn from Crowded House is no Enya or Annie Lennox, much less Hayley! The theme song is probably not going to be my favorite. Instead, I prefer the dwarves' version in the movie (which I am finally going to see tomorrow!!), Misty Mountains.