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Post by grant on Mar 17, 2012 15:00:31 GMT
Hello Andy and welcome to the forum. Your video is absolutely fantastic.
I thought Hayley's performance was brilliant and loved the way she put her arms around the two finalists towards the end of "You Raise Me Up"
Gosh! I would not have like to have been a judge, both the finalists were stunning. Also, I knew Hayley was presenting the trophy but hadn't realised that she was also announcing the winner.
Sorry, I can't pronounce their names - I wonder if the guy knew the girl had won - he seemed so happy for her when her name was announced and was the first to give her a big hug. If it was spontaneous - even more credit to him.
Once again thanks for the video - absolutely fantastic!
Best wishes
Grant
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Post by susieverity on Mar 17, 2012 17:05:43 GMT
Its a great video andy, thanks and welcome to the forum. I've only heard lascia so far at first I thought it wasn't her best, but she got better at the performance went on and the first 'sol per pieta' part was amazing!
Having listened again, lascia is amazing as is you raise me up!
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Post by comet on Mar 17, 2012 20:28:36 GMT
Thank you Andy and greetings from Ireland. Excellent video. Isn't she lovely
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Post by Richard on Mar 18, 2012 13:49:15 GMT
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Post by martindn on Mar 18, 2012 17:52:34 GMT
WOW! Two excellent singers. It must have been hard to decide between them.
Martin D
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Post by Dave on Mar 19, 2012 1:58:40 GMT
Hi everyone, Yes I agree, both finalists are excellent singers and either would have been worthy winners. But I think the winner, soprano 박기영 (Park Gi Yeong) has the edge. Her performances, which included at least one particularly difficult aria, were quite simply stunning for any TV reality show anywhere in the World. I hope she does well not only in Korea, but Internationally too. Thanks to the kind permission of Andy (who has the Youtube channel that first uploaded the video of Hayley's appearance in the final) I have now extracted just the two songs involving Hayley and have uploaded them to our Youtube channel hwivid. So Lascia Ch'io Pianga, You Raise Me Up, and Andy's original 12 minute video can now all be found embedded on our website article about this event, which I have updated. Here they are: Operastar Korea: 16 March 2012 (videos)Thanks Andy!  Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Joe on Mar 19, 2012 3:28:30 GMT
Thanks so much, Dave, and to Andy as well.
On our FaceBook page, I've posted a link to the article on our HWI website.
I simply love Hayley and the two finalists singing 'You Raise Me Up', and the stage is so amazing.
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Post by Libby on Mar 19, 2012 5:21:38 GMT
and the first 'sol per pieta' part was amazing! Having listened again, lascia is amazing as is you raise me up! Yes, that part of the song you mentioned sounds so pretty; the thought that came to mind was "sparkly". If sparkles made a sound, that's what they would sound like. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifHaving just watched A New Journey last night in celebration of St. Patrick's Day, I can say that I like the new performance of Lascia even better than the "old" one on A NJ. Her voice is just so much richer and more beautiful. Back then, and on that DVD in particular, her voice sounded thinner, for some reason. Maybe that's not the right word, but that's the word that came to mind. Of course, I still enjoy her performances there very much, but as most of you all seem to agree, her voice, and performance quality, has improved a lot since then. |
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Post by Simba on Mar 19, 2012 13:26:32 GMT
Sometimes you don't need to show everything in the face to deliver emotion, her solemn face with every note she sang connected like a string flowing perfectly like a stream brought out deeper emotions. Sometimes when you're on the verge of tears and singing a song of this context, realistically your face would be pale and 'emotionless' while that expression is what that brings out the real emotion. I've seen people comment on earlier Hayley performances, that her eyes says it all, and she needn't do anything else, for songs like this yes, it's very true. For the new performance, certain places were too loud, and the part "In duol infranga" was too raw (dunno how you'd put it), that it didn't match with the smooth, flowy texture of the string accompaniment, whereas the old version was perfect there, I thought it would bring a tear at that point already. Not to mention the sol per pieta was AMAZING, and I liked the rest of the performance much! Especially the E e e e Che e e e So o o o spiri XD....I always loved it  It's just that recently due to people saying Hayley is lacking emotion and such, she's been trying so much to add this expected emotion, that sometimes it becomes too much, as what you'd expect from a drama/musical. This is good, because songs where she laments, like I dreamed a dream is now perfect with all the emotion she puts into it now, My heart belongs to you and all of that....Starting to name the songs only do I realize it makes performances of a MAJORITY of her songs better! But songs like this, Hine e Hine, and the maori likes, Scarborough fair, needs that ethereal quality to voice more than its emotion, just like her old versions. I'm sure she's in the process of filtering you know, 1. all songs less emotion 2. add excess emotion to all songs 3. lessen the emotion for some songs. Oh and did you guys notice all the things she did during the final chorus of You Raise me up? I thought it was amazing! Those backing vocal things XD |
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Post by Libby on Mar 19, 2012 18:58:18 GMT
Yes, I did notice the "backing vocal things", and I was straining to hear it over the other singers (lovely as they are). I disagree about the emotion. I thought the whole thing was wonderful. I think it's just that she's trying to interpret every song now, and maybe sometimes it's too much, but personally, I didn't notice that here. I think I was too busy enjoying it.  I do agree that some songs she overdoes just a little. I've mentioned before that some of her Whispers in a Dream performances I've heard are just way too slow, and yes, probably too emotional. Her voice sounds wonderful, of course, but it's like you said, it needs the ethereal quality more than the emotion, just as she did on the Paradiso recording. Otherwise, it's way too drawn out and heavy-sounding. And then it seems to make the song more sad, whereas the recording sounded a lot more hopeful. |
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Post by martindn on Mar 19, 2012 19:36:47 GMT
Well, guys, you can't have it both ways! I've always been one who never lamented Hayley's so-called lack of emotion. I always loved her "ethereal" quality (yes, that's a good word for it) as somwething that most other singers can't do anything like as well as Hayley. For me that is enough. I think most if not all of my favourite songs of Hayley would fit into the "ethereal" category.
That being said, we can all see that Hayley has made huge strides in addressing this so-called deficiency, and is a better and more versatile performer as a result. She continues to improve and develop.
And Libby, yes that is exactly how her voice has changed over the years. When she made Pure her voice was like skimmed milk, now it is more like full cream milk. One day it may be like rich cream. Things never stand still, and both her range of vocal techniques and her voice have become richer and fuller over the years. Every album, every concert even, is a snapshot of where she is at the time. And she is still getting better. I see no sign of that ending any time soon, and long may it continue.
I thought that performance of Laschia" was just about perfection, and I too prefer it to the one on the CW Album and DVD.
And yes, I think the right singer won. But that guy was brilliant too.
Martin D
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Post by Libby on Mar 20, 2012 6:13:22 GMT
Well, guys, you can't have it both ways! I've always been one who never lamented Hayley's so-called lack of emotion. I thought that performance of Laschia" was just about perfection, and I too prefer it to the one on the CW Album and DVD. Martin D Just so we're clear, I never lamented it, either! If anything, I worried when I saw comments on her videos saying things like that, but I didn't understand how they could think that. Because for me, Hayley's voice alone brings out emotion, more so in certain songs than others, maybe. But her adding more emotion to her performances now is a definite plus. I recently listened to Hayley's Vivo Per Lei duet with Bocelli, after listening to the one with Chase so much lately. I found that I did not enjoy the old one as much as her newer performances (the one with Chase in particular). And, as noted at the time, Hayley's emotional interpretation, i.e. arm movements and facial expressions, was especially noticeable, and appreciated, when she sang it with a certain Welsh gentleman. |
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Post by Libby on Mar 20, 2012 6:32:38 GMT
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Post by Richard on Mar 20, 2012 8:29:21 GMT
Thanks for the photographs, Libby!  I tried to fix the third image in your post, but I don't think you've picked up the complete url, long as it is. The picture still wouldn't display when I removed the tags and clicked on the link. I see you had the same problem on Hayley's official forum. Richard  |
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Post by Simba on Mar 20, 2012 9:28:40 GMT
Exactly!, Emotion is something every other singer these days give, and sometimes emotion is the base for many singers whether they're good or not. But not all can produce that heavenly feel that hayley can give. Infact not ANYONE that I know of.
Ignore those comments by idiots that her performances are emotionless, see the rest, it's all "she sings like an angel!" "Is she for real!" "she's from heaven"
There was perfection in that quality, and I hope Hayley keeps a few songs reserved to be sung this way, because now with these songs performed with excess emotion and breaking the notes, people would at the most say, "a perfect performance!" "very moving performance!" and such, but I don't think it's anymore of the "ethereal" quality.
Libby your example is very apt, I'm happy Whispers in a dream was recorded that way in all its angelic significance, and Malena and other songs too. But before Hayley used to perform these songs just as they were recorded (or better) live, and now its all generalized and aimed to have a lot of emotion alone.
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