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Post by martindn on Feb 20, 2012 20:25:28 GMT
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Post by martindn on Feb 20, 2012 21:05:01 GMT
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Post by Libby on Feb 21, 2012 7:07:00 GMT
There's nothing wrong with powerful voices, Martin. I really hate it when you all use the foghorn term. I find it very rude, especially for a singer like Celine Dion. She's an incredible singer.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 21, 2012 19:47:50 GMT
It's a compliment, Libby, not an insult. Saying someone has a foghorn voice means they have great vocal strength & power that is capable of being heard through pretty much anything that could dampen it - hence foghorn, because that's what a foghorn does.
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Post by martindn on Feb 21, 2012 22:42:07 GMT
Hi Libby,
I didn't mean it in an insulting way. I agree Celine is a fine singer, I just always thought that her voice was more powerful than it sounds on that recording. I would have put her well ahead of Hayley for power, but those vids seem to show the opposite.
Martin D
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Post by Libby on Feb 22, 2012 6:39:58 GMT
The last time someone on here called another singer's voice a "foghorn", it was not a compliment. Foghorns are a bit too loud for most people. Plus, for some reason the word "horn" just does not sound flattering for a singer, even if they are powerful. Powerful sounds better than loud, and foghorns are loud. I imagine that's what most people think of when they hear foghorns. Loud. Like, plug your ears loud.
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Post by frenchie on Feb 22, 2012 21:26:58 GMT
Thank you Martin for the videos! They were a treat to watch and listen to! This topic seems to be about which version of said song I prefer, and to be honest, I actually prefer Celine's and Sarah's versions of the respected songs. Not because Hayley doesn't sing the songs beautifully, she does. And I like her different intro to Scarborough Fair; it's really Irish and beautiful. But because I have heard Celine's and Sarah's versions first, and for 12 and 10 years respectively. These versions are so familiar that I can not listen to any other versions really of these songs, except for Hayley's and Josh Groban's for the "The Prayer". I have to say though, why do singers only do the first 4-5 verses of Scarborough Fair? I would love to hear either Hayley or Sarah sing all the verses of this song! I would die if either one of them did this! Also, I believe that Celine was actually holding her own against Bocelli. I could hear Celine's voice belting the climax part as it was echoing throughout that stage set up!!  Something that not every artist could do! Not to mention, I think Celine was moving the mic away from her mouth in doing that part. I think Hayley's voice blends a little bit better with Bocelli's voice because both are more classically trained than Celine's powerful pop voice. Hard to admit, but I think it's true. That is maybe why Hayley sounds like she was doing better than Celine in holding her own. Re: the "foghorn" comment- I actually took it as a negative comment as well upon reading the first post. If it was not for the other comments, I would be a little upset about someone dissing an excellent singer. I guess this is cultural differences since the complainers are coming from the States. lol Alicia |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 22, 2012 22:07:39 GMT
You could be right with that last, Frenchie!
Martin & I both being Brits, we may just see the term differently. Certainly, I can't recall it being used as anything other than a compliment in Britain.
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Post by John H on Feb 23, 2012 11:38:28 GMT
I am British, but I wouldn't have taken the term 'foghorn' as a compliment.
I'm with Libby and Frenchie on this one.
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Post by Jenny A on Feb 23, 2012 17:49:45 GMT
Plus, for some reason the word "horn" just does not sound flattering for a singer, even if they are powerful. I just have to say that Hayley voice on certain songs reminds me of a French Horn. And that IS a compliment. Such a beautiful instrument. Honestly, I have to agree with you about the Fog Horn comment even if it wasn't meant that way. I've always considered that a bad thing to compare someone's voice to a fog horn... and maybe that's just the cultural difference. Jenny♥ |
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Post by martindn on Feb 23, 2012 19:51:14 GMT
OK, let's just say that I always considered that Celine has an exceptionally powerful voice.
And none of the performances I mentioned are any less that very good performances.
But I have to say I prefer Hayley's versions in both cases. In fact there are very few songs that I can say I prefer someone else's version to Hayley's. Perhaps only one.
I listened to and enjoyed Sarah's Scarborough Fair, which is on her album La Luna, my favourite album by Sarah, for years before I had even heard of Hayley. But doing the A/B with Hayley was an ear opener - her voice sounds much weaker and her pitch less precise than Hayley to my ears. And for me the things that matter about singers are power, range and control (not necessarily in that order).
The comparison with Celine is much closer, I think, but Hayley seems to attack the song with such joyous abandon that I can't help loving it.
Martin D.
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Post by Bamafan on Feb 23, 2012 21:36:27 GMT
I just have to say that Hayley voice on certain songs reminds me of a French Horn. And that IS a compliment. Such a beautiful instrument. I should know... I play it! Hayley's voice often reminds me of an oboe, especially in "Quanta Qualia". -Best from Bama |
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Post by martindn on Feb 23, 2012 21:42:13 GMT
Yes, I love her "oboe voice". There is another example of it on "Lezione di Musica". Tell me another singer, any other singer, that does that!
"Love Love Love" for example, where her vocalisations at the end are longer than the song.
And "All with You" has a little one, only a couple of seconds long that I think is my favourite moment on Winter Magic".
And then there is the fabulous "One Upon a Time in the West".
Martin D
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Something that not every artist could do! Not to mention, I think Celine was moving the mic away from her mouth in doing that part. I think Hayley's voice blends a little bit better with Bocelli's voice because both are more classically trained than Celine's powerful pop voice. Hard to admit, but I think it's true. That is maybe why Hayley sounds like she was doing better than Celine in holding her own.
