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Post by tireman on Jul 24, 2011 2:46:07 GMT
Hi Martin D and Larry, I think you are comparing apples and oranges, and that doesn't really work! The circumstances of that wonderful Doris Day original that I remember so well from my youth, and of Hayley's 'live' performance last week, are completely different and it is in my opinion not very helpful to try and say which is "better". It's a great song and a classic like that will always be hard or impossible to beat, for those who are old enough to remember the original. But as with Vera Lynn's old song We'll Meet Again, Hayley did a great job with it and few if any modern day singers could do it as well. We should, I think, leave it at that. By the way, I absolutely love the music of Doris Day (and that wasn't/isn't her only talent!). A legend in her own lifetime.  Cheers, Dave I agree with you Dave. My intention was not to say who was best it was to say that I thought Hayley was not suited to sing this type of song. Her voice is to pure. Of course this is only my opinion and others may perceive it differently. But make no mistake that just as I said in a subsequent post I meant no criticism of Hayley. She's still the best I've ever heard. Larry |
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Post by tireman on Jul 24, 2011 3:11:14 GMT
Hi Martin D and Larry, I think you are comparing apples and oranges, and that doesn't really work! The circumstances of that wonderful Doris Day original that I remember so well from my youth, and of Hayley's 'live' performance last week, are completely different and it is in my opinion not very helpful to try and say which is "better". It's a great song and a classic like that will always be hard or impossible to beat, for those who are old enough to remember the original. But as with Vera Lynn's old song We'll Meet Again, Hayley did a great job with it and few if any modern day singers could do it as well. We should, I think, leave it at that. By the way, I absolutely love the music of Doris Day (and that wasn't/isn't her only talent!). A legend in her own lifetime. Cheers, Dave Hi Dave As an old codger I remember Vera Lynn well. Although I was just In elementary school I loved her voice so. She was very popular here as well in your country. I'm so delighted to see her still alive and well. She was truly an inspiration for my family as my Father was off to war in the South Pacific. He was drafted at age 34, The performance at Royal Albert Hall by Hayley touched me deeply. She was spectacular, She even had her hair styled in a 40's style.. Hayley is an icon at an early age. Regards Larry |
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Post by comet on Jul 24, 2011 3:37:14 GMT
Thanks for the recordings Martin Dn ,
they are very special.
Was your original recording in .wma, .wav or Mp3 ?
I know the .wma files are bigger, but the usually are better quality than mp3.
Wow !
What a great bit of promotion before the release of Paradiso in the UK
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Post by Libby on Jul 24, 2011 4:41:09 GMT
I'm not familiar with any of the other songs besides the Paradiso ones. So I'm don't know the difference. I thought she sang them well, but was back to her "Battle of Britain" voice a little. Old-fashioned sounding. But very well-sung, of course.
So, pardon me, Martin, when I say that for me, Cinema Paradiso was the performance of the night, with Whispers not far behind!
One thing about Cinema, the instrumental part didn't seem quite right; I felt like it was missing something, the part of that music that I like best, actually. Oh well, hopefully the orchestra that tours with her will do it right. And I thought the high notes in the song were not quite effortless.
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Post by Simba on Jul 24, 2011 8:04:09 GMT
Thanks alot Martin for the mediafire links!  Now about this song, I don't think it's right to say "this song doesn't suit her", a better and acceptable way to put this is "Since Dorris Day is my icon, and that I've listened to her song so many times it became quite irreplaceable and I think Hayley's voice didn't suit it" And I humbly feel, as a non-American listening to both songs for the first time, without no personal biases, Hayley had every nut and bolt to sing this song. She was absolutely high-spirited, had everything required to make this song complete and lively. When I listened to Dorris day, as Martin said, her voice lacked something. (well to put it simply I 'personally' didn't like it, not saying it's bad) I'm a person who strongly feels in the fact that there's no such thing as "original being unbeatable" Sure, it is usually hard to beat it, but with Hayley she proved this fact wrong right from Scarborough Fair, for me. As I said earlier, I completely prefer Hayley's version of Deadwood stage as it has more feel, emotion and liveliness. EDIT: Oops sorry Larry didn't read your latest two posts when I posted this XD EDIT: Cinema Paradiso, Libby you're right, I always thought the orchestration (original piece) was better than the song itself due to something missing, I'm sure it was missing in the studio recording as well. And since they're using the same arrangement...they're likely to use it in future tours too I'm thinking.... |
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Post by tireman on Jul 24, 2011 16:59:06 GMT
Finial word on Deadwood. Both Hayley and Doris did the piece very well.
Both Hayley and Doris sang it well....just with different twists on the piece.
I have no Doris Day albums and I have all of Hayley's albums except for the Asian ones.
So it's obvious who my favorite artist today is. I loved Doris but I live in the present not the past.
Larry
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Post by Libby on Jul 25, 2011 5:38:05 GMT
EDIT: Cinema Paradiso, Libby you're right, I always thought the orchestration (original piece) was better than the song itself due to something missing, I'm sure it was missing in the studio recording as well. And since they're using the same arrangement...they're likely to use it in future tours too I'm thinking.... Actually, I was referring to how the instrumental part sounds on Paradiso itself, compared to how it sounded in this concert. In this concert, I didn't hear a little part of it that I hear, and really, really like, in the Paradiso recording. That's why I noticed it, because I like it so much, and was disappointed when I didn't hear it. I don't know if I've ever heard the original piece, since I've never seen the movie. But I think I will try to see it sometime. Hayley said it was "stunning", so that made me interested in seeing it. |
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Post by Simba on Jul 25, 2011 6:54:23 GMT
Oh right, but if you listen to the original piece (you don't have to watch the movie, just listen to it on youtube), you'll know it sounds more beautiful, dunno how to put it. Well I think it's because of the music steadily and continuously moving quite smoothly, and the second verse or third picks up speed, the tempo change and such made the whole piece very emotional. But in Paradiso as well as this one, there are too many pauses, (it's amazing nevertheless), like you know, Ce...Profumo de..limoni al mio paese......So I was talking about that haha...
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Post by Simba on Jul 25, 2011 9:29:11 GMT
 Tracklist:
1. Spring Spring Spring [From Seven Brides for Seven Brothers]
2. Whispers In A Dream (Gabriel's Oboe) [From Mission]
3. I Talk To The Trees [From Paint Your Wagon (duet with Tam Mutu)]
4. The Deadwood Stage [From Calamity Jane]
5. Profumo Di Limone [From Cinema Paradiso]
6. A Million Miles Away Behind The Door [From Paint Your Wagon]Download
These songs, everyone of them really impressed me alot, and I definitely would want to listen to this always just like all the other albums I have, because hayley may never record these songs or sing them again. So I decided to make this a mini album thing, with all the mp3 files edited so that it has proper fade in opening and fade out ending and the 2 second pause at the end. All the applause, speech have been removed. And being a musician myself, I isolated the vocals, added some nice reverb effects to ensure somewhat studio quality. So better quality is guaranteed! Not only that I also added all the Contributing Artist(s), album, year, genre, origin details to the mp3, so when you load it on itunes or Windows Mediaplayer, this should come under Hayley Westenra > The American West, with proper tracklisting. Album art should get updated by itself, but if not, the Album Art image is included in the .rar, and you can update it manually I hope you guys like the tracklisting, I thought this flowed pretty well. I love Hayley Westenra, and I love HWI alot, this is such an awesome place with some really friendly people, well run too! So this is a small thing I can do in return for HWI, although it may not mean much |
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Post by Ross on Jul 25, 2011 9:47:46 GMT
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Post by Simba on Jul 25, 2011 9:49:18 GMT
Thanks alot Ross! Glad you like it Oh! And thanks Martin for those mediafire links! |
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Post by martindn on Jul 25, 2011 10:10:58 GMT
Thanks for the recordings Martin Dn , they are very special. Was your original recording in .wma, .wav or Mp3 ? I know the .wma files are bigger, but the usually are better quality than mp3. Wow ! What a great bit of promotion before the release of Paradiso in the UK Hi Comet, They were mp3s! Martin D |
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Post by postscript on Jul 25, 2011 19:14:52 GMT
Hi everyone.
First a big thank you to all who work behind the scenes. I think HWI is really looking great, neat, well laid out, professional and well up to the standard of the star we are celebrating here.
Second. A special thank you to Dave for the recordings of FNIMN.
Third. Our heroine. Her rendition of these songs tells the world she is not a singer! She is a full-blooded showgirl. In her voice, you can hear the characters she is acting. This is an actress ready for a West End musical. I would have longed to see how she was on stage. I am sure she would have given away just how much she wanted to swirl her dress and tap her feet. Not only was her rendition wide-ranging in her song interpretations but that diverse interpretation had depth.
Most noticeably was the Deadwood Stage. She was with doubt as good as Doris Day but Hayley's interpretation was completely different yet brought out all the nuances Doris Day gave us but in Hayley's own way. It is a long time since I saw the film but I'm sure Hayley gave the song something more than Doris Day gave us.
As also with Spring spring spring. A lot of work in that presentation, Dave. Thank you.
Well done Hayley. A superb evening.
Peter S.
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Post by postscript on Jul 25, 2011 19:29:45 GMT
Hello Simba.
That is a lovely tribute. Thank you for your efforts and glad to have you on board.
Peter S.
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Post by grant on Jul 25, 2011 19:44:51 GMT
Hello Peter and everyone Third. Our heroine. Her rendition of these songs tells the world she is not a singer! She is a full-blooded showgirl. In her voice, you can hear the characters she is acting. This is an actress ready for a West End musical. I would have longed to see how she was on stage. I am sure she would have given away just how much she wanted to swirl her dress and tap her feet. Not only was her rendition wide-ranging in her song interpretations but that diverse interpretation had depth. Mmmm! And from my Kings Lynn concert report .... Great minds think alike  Best wishes Grant |
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