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Post by Dave on Sept 24, 2010 16:14:17 GMT
Thanks for the good news, Joyce!  It is in PAL format so that leaves out us the in the USA   M There are a few possibilities for you starbuck, and fellow fans in NTSC areas, so you don't necessarily need to give up yet, e.g. - The producers might be persuaded to convert it and release an NTSC version later on, a few emails from interested fans might help to persuade them.
- There does not seem to be any Region Code on the DVD (though the photo of the DVD cover is not 100% clear) so it should play on any computer with a DVD drive, anywhere in the World.
- I understand that nowadays, some DVD players sold in the US (and other NTSC countries) and some TVs sold there are compatible with PAL - but both need to be compatible. The very cheapest ones are just as likely to be compatible as more expensive ones, the manuals will tell you.
Hopefully, other US members will enlighten us about PAL to NTSC compatibility but I just wanted to point out that there may be ways round the problem. It's easy the other way round, as everything sold in PAL countries is compatible with PAL and NTSC (if we ignore region coding!). Cheers, Dave |
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Post by JohnNL on Sept 24, 2010 17:22:59 GMT
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Post by Libby on Sept 24, 2010 18:55:05 GMT
I was about to say "Hooray! Finally!" and now my hopes have been dashed. Yet I might just order to play it on my computer, if nothing else. Better than nothing. How long would we have to wait for the right format? Is there really any point in hoping that will happen? We've waited so long already; how much longer do I have to wait? And can someone please explain why they don't make some DVDs to be able to be played everywhere? I can't imagine why this would be? Do they really think other countries wouldn't want it? Or are they just mean?  |
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Post by dutchjoyce on Sept 24, 2010 19:12:47 GMT
Hi, I think that the people at DFT enterprises are surprised to see so much orders came in today, from places all over the world Libby, Why don't you send DFT enterprises an Email, and ask them about your problem. Possibly after so much interest from all over the world, there will be finally a DVD that wil play in every DVD player. Greetz Joyce |
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Post by Roger-G on Sept 24, 2010 20:32:03 GMT
And can someone please explain why they don't make some DVDs to be able to be played everywhere? I can't imagine why this would be? Do they really think other countries wouldn't want it? Or are they just mean? There are two different issues- The 'Region' was intended to limit licensing and distribution for the convenience and profit of the record companies The PAL and NTSC versions were for compatibility with different TV broadcast systems With modern equipment both issues can be overcome. If you have a PC with a suitable DVD 'burner' and the right software you should be able to copy the PAL DVD to your hard drive and then burn an NTSC ('Never Twice the Same Color') copy that you can play on your NTSC DVD player into your TV. |
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Post by Dave on Sept 24, 2010 20:53:15 GMT
The problem Roger with doing it yourself is firstly that most people just won't be able to do it, and even if they are sufficiently "techy" to do the conversion, the PAL - NTSC conversion will be of lower quality than the original DVD. The converted copy will have only 480 vertical lines instead of 576, and the usual benefit of a higher frame rate (about 30 fps) will be lost, in fact the conversion will inevitably look a bit jerky in moving/panning/zooming sequences, due to the insertion of several duplicate frames a second. An "official" professional conversion will do better, but it will still suffer from some quality loss.
As I mentioned above, it should play in its original "PAL" format and quality in any PC with a DVD drive.
But ideally, a PAL-compatible DVD player and PAL-compatible TV should be used, this will retain all of the original quality. I know that some US equipment is PAL compatible but I don't know how much and I would be interested to know if any of our US or other 'NTSC' members have a PAL-compatible player or TV. Checking the manual may be the easiest way to find out.
Cheers, Dave
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Post by martindn on Sept 24, 2010 20:56:02 GMT
Wonderful, this is what I've been waiting for. Ordered!
Martin D
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Post by spiderman on Sept 24, 2010 21:38:42 GMT
ive ordered. yay. more hayley.im shocked i have to wait 5 business days though.. impatient is me.
pal/ ntsc switch... my 2 cents worth. buy it and try it. most dvd players are multizoned anyway; and if not google the code to change it. it does work really
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Post by Roger-G on Sept 24, 2010 21:58:26 GMT
The problem Roger with doing it yourself is firstly that most people just won't be able to do it, and even if they are sufficiently "techy" to do the conversion, the PAL - NTSC conversion will be of lower quality than the original DVD. The converted copy will have only 480 vertical lines instead of 576, and the usual benefit of a higher frame rate (about 30 fps) will be lost, in fact the conversion will inevitably look a bit jerky in moving/panning/zooming sequences, due to the insertion of several duplicate frames a second. An "official" professional conversion will do better, but it will still suffer from some quality loss. Oh yes I agree the converted picture copy will be inferior, but still better than no Hayley. And the audio should be fine. I disagree about the difficulty though - there is advice on the web and the worst mistake you can make is to waste a blank disk or two. In the absence of a PAL-compatible player, the other possible option is that if your PC has an HDMI output as many now do, it can be directly connected to a TV and give excellent quality. |
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Post by grant on Sept 24, 2010 22:48:57 GMT
Hi Rodders and Ross HaHa! Well spotted guys! Yes you did beat me but only because I've been away for a few days photographing narrow gauge Beyer-Garratt Locos i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifAll ordered now though!! Best wishes Grant |
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Post by amptique on Sept 24, 2010 23:35:10 GMT
Just ordered my copy. I guess I'll figure out how to watch it when it arrives.  Grant, will we get to see your locomotive pictures? Bill |
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Post by Libby on Sept 25, 2010 4:12:18 GMT
I'll e-mail them, but if I don't get a response soon, or if they say they aren't going to make it in the other format, I'll probably order it anyway, at least just to watch on my computer. BTW, I looked up region coding, and I read that the movie industry does this so that people can't send movie DVDs to people in other countries where the movie hasn't been released yet. That's so they can still make millions at the box office when it's released overseas. So it's all about money.  Yet, what on earth does that have to do with this documentary? It's not being released in theaters. Are they really so unaware that Hayley has fans all over the world that might want to watch it? Maybe they're not mean, but they're inconsiderate at the very least. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifIt's bad enough to see you all gloating over all the concerts you Brits get to go to and we don't, and now this? This is so frustrating!  |
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Post by Dave on Sept 25, 2010 13:38:01 GMT
...BTW, I looked up region coding, and I read that the movie industry does this so that people can't send movie DVDs to people in other countries where the movie hasn't been released yet. That's so they can still make millions at the box office when it's released overseas. So it's all about money. Yet, what on earth does that have to do with this documentary? It's not being released in theaters. Are they really so unaware that Hayley has fans all over the world that might want to watch it? Maybe they're not mean, but they're inconsiderate at the very least. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifHi Libby, Region coding shouldn't be a problem on this DVD because I don't think there is any - it looks like they have left it uncoded. I say this firstly because there is (in my opinion) no reason for them to do it with this DVD, and secondly because the cover photo on the distributer's website doesn't mention it in any of the text that it's possible to read. Hopefully they will confirm this when they reply to your email. PAL versus NTSC is a different matter altogether, which is decided by the different TV standards in use in different parts of the world. Dave |
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Post by Richard on Sept 25, 2010 13:47:58 GMT
Hello Libby!  I can set my DVD player to convert NTSC DVDs to PAL, or PAL DVDs to NTSC. If you check the instruction booklet, you may find you can do the same with yours, or it might already be set to play all DVDs as NTSC.  Richard  |
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Post by Sing on Sept 25, 2010 16:09:17 GMT
Horray!!! This is definitely going on my birthday list ...now all I have to do is pesuade my dad to buy it for me I can't wait to see this again...in better quality than the upload best wishes Sing |
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