flotsam
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Post by flotsam on Apr 28, 2009 19:36:24 GMT
I thinks it is very difficult to find a bad picture of hayley  |
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 29, 2009 2:31:37 GMT
Although I am not of the faith that the Chrystal Cathedral espouses I find myself watching their programming to see the wonderful talent they display. Hayley is to be commended for being asked to be on their broadcast. But I am puzzled why after all the U S appearances she has made in the last few years she has not been embraced by American audiences. It makes me wonder if Americans have lost their ability to recognize real talent. Such a pity. Larry  |
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 29, 2009 2:36:10 GMT
What a bad photo of Hayley.
Larry
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 29, 2009 2:38:08 GMT
What a great photo of Hayley.
Larry
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Joe
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Post by Joe on Apr 29, 2009 3:06:11 GMT
What a bad photo of Halley. Larry What a great photo of Hayley. Larry Which photos are you referring to, Larry? |
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Post by Jillian on Apr 29, 2009 3:32:25 GMT
I don't know about 'bad'.... I think the much stronger word 'evil' is more suited to this photo!   Although I am not of the faith that the Chrystal Cathedral espouses I find myself watching their programming to see the wonderful talent they display. Hayley is to be commended for being asked to be on their broadcast. But I am puzzled why after all the U S appearances she has made in the last few years she has not been embraced by American audiences. It makes me wonder if Americans have lost their ability to recognize real talent. Such a pity. Larry Hi Larry, Though, you know what's interesting? With my videos I posted on Youtube, you can see what countries are members who view the videos are from. By a long shot, the USA has given my videos the most views -- admittedly, there's a helluva lot of people in that country -- but twice as many USA people have viewed my videos than UKers -- so at least that's something. |
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Post by Libby on Apr 29, 2009 4:52:38 GMT
But I am puzzled why after all the U S appearances she has made in the last few years she has not been embraced by American audiences. It makes me wonder if Americans have lost their ability to recognize real talent. Such a pity. Well, new fans were still gained because of these appearances, anyway. It's better than nothing. A little bit at a time is better than nothing at all. I think the problem is that these appearances have mostly been pretty small. Not all the shows she's been on are so popular that enough people would see her. The Capitol 4th one probably was seen by lots and lots of people. I actually purposely searched for comments about Hayley on the program, and found 2 people's blogs who loved her voice. However, most people on the 4th of July are out barbequing or setting off fireworks, not staying in and watching TV. And PBS wasn't the only channel to have a show like that. Hayley was certainly embraced by the audience on the Hour of Power show; they all stood up and applauded her. Besides her beautiful voice, what Dr. Schuller said about her summed it up. She would be very refreshing to the people who were there and who watch the show, because it is very hard to find a young artist like her with amazing talent and is still a decent person, unlike most other popular young artists these days. The American Dreams show wasn't the most popular show, and didn't last that long. The Live from New Zealand was wonderful, but the problem with PBS is that they never say what their Great Performances are going to be. You usually have to stumble upon them accidentally. So, the Celtic Woman show was a bigger help for Hayley on PBS. The only other TV appearances I remember are the 2 skating specials she was on, in 2004 and 2005. Those are aired on Sunday afternoons, not the most popular TV viewing time. Also, not everyone is a figure skating fan. Competitions are much more exciting, and some people only watch it during the Olympics anyway (I watch everything figure skating!). Oh, and last season the So You Think You Can Dance show, a couple danced to Dark Waltz. I saw several enthusiastic responses about the song on the show's forum, people wanting to know who the singer was. Someone said they loved it from the first note, and that they were "buying this whole CD!" Okay, I'm getting way off topic. Hayley wore great outfits on all these occasions!  |
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 29, 2009 20:26:36 GMT
Hi Libby, Well I think that American audiences are less sophisticated. If not why don't we have more entertainers like Streisand or Tony Bennett. All we can come up with is singers with marginal talent that are over hyped. Most of the new singers come from that horrible American Idol show. Larry |
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 29, 2009 20:35:56 GMT
Hi Jillian, The U K folks don't have to watch Hayley on you tube they have Hayley there for six months out of the year. I think a lot of Americans would like to see Hayley but unless she is given the hype needed it won't happen. The music industry in the U S reminds me of our boxing industry. Don King the guru of boxing would be analogous to the types that control the music industry here. Larry |
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 29, 2009 20:48:18 GMT
Hi Joe,
I can't find the bad photo I was referring to; but the good one was the one on the Japanese poster.
Larry
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Post by roger on Apr 29, 2009 21:01:28 GMT
...twice as many USA people have viewed my videos than UKers -- so at least that's something. Hi Jillian, Actually that is interesting because it more than reflects the number of US members of this forum as opposed to those in the UK. Of the 350 members, 127 of them are in the US and only 107 are in the UK. If other YT videos are being seen by large numbers of US viewers, it might start to suggest that there is more support for Hayley on the other side of the pond than we realised. Roger |
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Post by martindn on Apr 29, 2009 22:44:14 GMT
What's more Roger, my feeling is that the official forum is even more US dominated than this one, although I have no figures to support that, just a gut feeling. I would be interested if someone who knows could provide actual figures. Martin |
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Post by Jillian on Apr 30, 2009 11:44:14 GMT
To bring this back on topic, imitation is the highest form of flattery....  |
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Post by jordi on Apr 30, 2009 15:57:57 GMT
Another happy bunny from Dunstable.  Photo: Steve Abbott. |
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Post by milewalker on Apr 30, 2009 18:40:19 GMT
...twice as many USA people have viewed my videos than UKers -- so at least that's something. Hi Jillian, Actually that is interesting because it more than reflects the number of US members of this forum as opposed to those in the UK. Of the 350 members, 127 of them are in the US and only 107 are in the UK. If other YT videos are being seen by large numbers of US viewers, it might start to suggest that there is more support for Hayley on the other side of the pond than we realised. Roger Keep in mind that there are two obvious factors which skew those numbers . First, the US has five times as many people as the UK. Second, there are few alternative outlets for information about Hayley. You wont find much about her in print over here. Therefore any person in the US who wants informatin about her almost has to go through one of the websites, or YouTube of course. I have no doubt that Hayley has almost as many fans here in sheer numbers as she does in the UK. For reasons of simple logistics this does her very little good, because except for possibly New York there arent enough of them in any one place to support a concert big enough to come over and do. Larry, I dont think that it has a lot to do with better or worse taste in America. The simple size of the country as opposed to elsewhere suggests that mass media is the only way to reach large audiences here. This produces a catch 22 for an artist like Hayley. It wont be featured on mass media unless it is commercially viable, and it isnt commercially viable in large part because you cant find it on mass media. Many things that people decry about pop culture in America stem, in my opinion, from this simple contradiction. For example, a lot of pop music is very derivative of itself, because there is an understandable reluctance on the part of both artists and the industry at large to deviate from a successful formula. Jon PS I would try to bring this back on topic, but feel singularly unqualified to discuss fashion |
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