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Post by stevemacdonald on May 15, 2008 23:13:19 GMT
... I totally disagree. NOBODY should ever fill Charlotte's shoes, EVER. Filling her shoes is a recipe for disaster ... Gerrit, your point about Charlotte is taken, but I was stating a fact of life, not a desire. When you court fame at an early age -- as Faryl is doing -- you must be labeled as the "next 'so-and-so'" just to get noticed. Take away the comparisons and see how far you'll get. Faryl should be delighted to be compared with successful predecessors. Someday she can happily return the favor, so to speak, when a new kid comes along as "the next Faryl Smith". |
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Post by grant on May 15, 2008 23:39:47 GMT
I don’t mean to speak for Jeff, but I think his title and message were intended to contemplate a similar level of accomplishment and future success, not a similarity between their voices or styles. That was my reading anyway. I was going to make the same comment. I think we all accept that Hayley, Connie and Faryl are all unique in their own way, but it is that uniqueness that groups them together. They will all have great careers, if that is the way they wish to go. However, I take Gerrit's point; maybe we do need to come up with more appropriate titles for this type of thread. Best wishes Grant |
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Post by Jeff on May 16, 2008 9:18:46 GMT
Yes socalboy, that's exactly how I meant it. Now I must watch that Youtube video again........I just can't believe how good she is !
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Post by gra7890 on May 16, 2008 17:32:55 GMT
I take Gerrit's point; maybe we do need to come up with more appropriate titles for this type of thread. And there will only be one Faryl Smith. I therefore also totally and completely disagree with the title of this thread. Faryl Smith is definitely NOT another Hayley. Faryl Smith is and will be the only Faryl Smith. And that's the only way to do justice to this singing talent. It is also doing injustice to Hayley's own unique talents. How could there be another one like Hayley? How could there be another one like Faryl? It is just not fair to label ANY singer as the next so-and-so. Not fair on the singer, and not fair on the so-and-so. It implies that the so-and-so has a copy-able talent. And no talent is copy-able. So, let's give Faryl her own thread, but please not as the next Hayley, nor as the next Katherine (even though Faryl herself has indicated Katherine is her favourite singer), and certainly not as the next Charlotte Faryl is just the one and only Faryl. . Connie Talbot is NOT an up and coming Hayley. Connie Talbot is the one and only unique Connie Talbot. I think we should completely stop to publish singers as the next version of ..... Wow, A star of the future definitely but another Hayley  Hayley's voice is beautiful and unique, those are two of the reasons we are such fans. As well as Hayley being the person she is  Is it fair to 'hang this title' on Faryl, or should she be allowed to find her own identity Graham Hi Gerrit, I am with you on this one as my previous post shows ! Best Wishes, Graham |
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Post by jimg on May 16, 2008 20:15:32 GMT
Hi Gerrit, Grant & Graham,
I agree with your comments we should not hang these labels on the up and coming stars.
I would not be surprised to see Faryl go on to win BGT. If she does she could do worse than look at how Hayley and KJ handle their fame either would make a good roll model.
Although I dislike the way these comparisons are made I would not, if Faryl's career takes the course I expect ( hope, believe ) be surprised to see the headline in about 15 years
Is ______ ________ the next Faryl Smith?
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Post by Jeff on May 17, 2008 9:25:48 GMT
The finalists from BGT will be touring the UK in June visiting 15 venues. I'm not sure if Faryl will be with them since she may be at school doing exams but since the show is coming to a theatre near me I shall try and find out from the box office.
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Post by Belinda on May 17, 2008 9:38:20 GMT
Hi Everyone, I've just watched the you tube video shes amazing i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifwill be interesting to see what other songs she sings, But going by this performance she will do well in the opera field on stage or as a recording star Belinda |
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Post by martindn on May 17, 2008 21:47:53 GMT
Yes, I agree. I had missed BGT since it conflicts with "The Nancies" with Andrew Lloyd Webber and the delectable Denise among the judges on the other channel, which makes it compelling viewing. But I watched her on you tube and WOW! She is certainly good enough to win, but since I haven't seen any of the other contestants, I don't know if she will.
It is clear to me that if Faryl wants to, she will make it as a singer. And I totally agree with Gerrit's point, she is Farryl, not an imitator of anyone else. She is her own person, with her own unique life and experiences just as we all are. And she is not remotely like Hayley, perhaps the only thing they have in common is a wonderful talent at an early age.
Martin
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Post by Dori on May 17, 2008 23:53:43 GMT
She was by far the best contestant in the history of this show. For a twelve year old, the amazing control she had in her voice - it was mind blowing! Can't wait to see more of her, and I believe she will win this year's competition!
Dori
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Post by Mark on May 19, 2008 16:40:52 GMT
Hi everyone I would agree, what a fantastic mature and pure voice this young girl has. You only had to look at the reaction of the judges and the audience to know that she really is something special. I must admit that with in the first minute of her starting to sing, I became quite emotional - spine tingling stuff Mark |
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Post by Jeff on May 24, 2008 9:26:31 GMT
She was by far the best contestant in the history of this show. For a twelve year old, the amazing control she had in her voice - it was mind blowing! Can't wait to see more of her, and I believe she will win this year's competition! Dori I agree. It's the semi-finals next week so fingers crossed.  |
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Post by roger on May 24, 2008 19:59:35 GMT
Faryl has made it to the semi-finals and is therefore among the last 40.  Roger |
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Post by Nordly on May 25, 2008 0:56:25 GMT
Congratulations Faryl!
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Post by milewalker on May 25, 2008 3:53:17 GMT
Hi Gerrit, Grant & Graham, I agree with your comments we should not hang these labels on the up and coming stars. I would not be surprised to see Faryl go on to win BGT. If she does she could do worse than look at how Hayley and KJ handle their fame either would make a good roll model. Although I dislike the way these comparisons are made I would not, if Faryl's career takes the course I expect ( hope, believe ) be surprised to see the headline in about 15 years Is ______ ________ the next Faryl Smith? Hello all All of this is merely an extention of the way the human brain processes new information. We file it under the most similar things we have encountered previously, and make changes later as they become necessary. I think we are in danger of confusing several very different things here. For example, we have Hayley/Charlote/Faryl the person, who are unique as individuals, as oppsed to their music, which is the marketed product she produces - and we also have their (prospective) careers, which overlap, but are not identical to either of the other two things. When a statement is made like the title of this thread, it is usually the product which is being discussed (or the career in some cases) rather than the person. If one were to assume that a CD by Faryl would ever be produced, the likely buyers wont know (and in most cases wont care) what she is like as a person. The product produced is therefore the most important consideration at that level - and Fayrl has a whole lot more in common with Hayley or Charlotte in that regard than she does with someone like Britney or Christina. For this reason, one of the most common places one might hear a comparison of this sort is actually from the people responsible for the original market placement of the artist. The comparison is also useful when we are discussing types of careers (once again something distinct from the person having them). Were I to define a specific career niche - lets call it "young crossover queen", by which I mean that the "queen" is merely the "brand" which is selling more records than the competition - it is fairly clear that this niche was first occupied by Charlotte, who was followed by Hayley. In that sense, Hayley was the "next Charlotte" - and anyone who wished to say that about her when she was 13 would have been exactly right. Viewed in that light, Hayley will soon be moving on (I suspect she is increasingly viewed now as the "next Sarah Brightman") -and Faryl is as likely a successor to that "throne" as I have heard to this point. It is not only virtually impossible to market a new singer except by comparison with what came before, but it is also difficult to even discuss them without making such comparisons. While I sympathize with your concerns here Gerrit, I think you are basing this on a personal level consideration which is unfortunately almost entirely irrelvant at the "point of sale" Jon |
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Post by stevemacdonald on May 25, 2008 5:02:46 GMT
Yeah, what Jon said!
Personally, I suspect Faryl may get knocked out of the competition just because of the possible backlash against another Charlotte.
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