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Post by gillette on Jan 29, 2014 2:51:51 GMT
Hi all, On this video, the ninth down (presently) MAIN top comment has caught my eye. (James Horner) From what I have found for a translation, that is high praise from a high source. Haven't happened to see his name before under comments for Hayley videos. BobS www.youtube.com/watch?v=d97zkAanaZY
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Post by Bamafan on Jan 29, 2014 3:43:43 GMT
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Post by Libby on Jan 29, 2014 6:41:03 GMT
Well, Hayley does do the odd negative song Libby. I Dreamed a Dream for example. But for the most part her songs are positive and uplifting, and that is one of the things I love about her. It reflects her never say die attitude to life. Martin D I Dreamed a Dream is different. It's a classic song, and even though it is very sad, the music almost seems triumphant somehow. It touches me emotionally, especially when Hayley sings it. And Taylor, I can't really think of many Hayley songs that are "happy", if you mean the cheesy kind of happy. An example of a "happy" song that I can think of is "Sing Out" by Celtic Woman. Hayley's never done anything like that. What about I Know You By Heart? That's a very sad song, yet I love it anyway. It's not saying they don't want to see someone again, it's about the joyful moments spent with a lost loved one. Same thing with Sonny, it's a heart-wrenching song. The difference is that it's sad, and yet it's not depressing. I find I often purposely seek out these types of songs, because they do touch me so emotionally when I hear them. Sonny and I Know You By Heart are a couple of those songs. I Hope I Never doesn't touch me that way. Bridge Over Troubled Water and YRMU are inspiring, uplifting songs, not "happy", necessarily. I'm not sure why anyone would get tired of songs like that, unless you're the really cynical type, or because you've heard them too many times. Right now, I'm having trouble thinking of popular songs that are what I would call "happy". All I can think of right now is that "I'm so excited, I just can't hide it" song. I'm sure there's more, but that's all I can come up with. So, I'm not quite sure what you're tired of, Taylor.
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Post by Richard on Jan 29, 2014 9:16:09 GMT
Here are two very short interviews from the Classical BRIT Awards 2009. You can see Blake in the background. Richard
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Post by Bamafan on Jan 29, 2014 15:19:37 GMT
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Post by Libby on Jan 30, 2014 7:44:32 GMT
I was just talking in general, Libby. Anyway, I still respect your opinion, but I would also like to ask if we could set the issue aside. -Taylor Sure, but I still don't quite understand. What's in general? I'm seriously interested in which songs are so happy we need a break from them. That's what I got out of your statement, and it surprised me, so that's the only reason I was asking. But it is true, the song would be a lot different than her other songs, but not because none of her songs are sad. It would be the first one to ever say something negative against another person, even if they deserved it, and it just rubs me the wrong way to hear Hayley singing those things. I'm just not used to it. Okay, now I'll let it rest.
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Post by Jillian on Jan 30, 2014 9:25:19 GMT
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I sometimes think that there can be two differing opinions about types of songs (and people switch depending what mood their in).
1. People who like music to be relatable to their every day problems.
2. People who like music to be removed from everyday life so as to provide an escape.
In terms of the first category, most of Bruce Springsteen's 'Born in the USA' album comes to mind and some of his other songs like 'Atlantic City' 'The River' etc.
I love Bruce Springsteen by the way - particularly the way his lyrics provide some pretty astute commentary on life and human nature. But I'm getting off track here!
Although, as a general comment, I don't think material like that particularly works unless it's coming from a place of personal relevance for the artist.
Most of Hayley's music falls into the second category I listed. I think this can come across as more 'happy' due to the absence of real life drudgery and issues.
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Post by Dave on Jan 30, 2014 9:26:06 GMT
Conversely, and just to add, some of the very best songs Hayley's ever done are for me her saddest songs ever! I will only mention one but you'll get my drift when I do. Dido's Lament, the final track on the original UK Odyssey, one of the saddest songs ever written in human history. Marvellous for me, and there are plenty of others *almost* as sad, or happy-sad! I don't think Hayley will ever perform Dido's Lament live though, somehow. Or I Am A Thousand Winds for that matter! We are a diverse lot, you know... We are drifting though! We could have an entire thread on this, you know! Cheers, Dave
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Post by comet on Jan 30, 2014 12:31:43 GMT
*Jillian walks in and starts everything up again* In terms of the first category, most of Bruce Springsteen's 'Born in the USA' album comes to mind and some of his other songs like 'Atlantic City' 'The River' etc. I love Bruce Springsteen by the way - particularly the way his lyrics provide some pretty astute commentary on life and human nature. But I'm getting off track here! I used to use Bruce's My Hometown as a soundcheck record, bass and volume up, rattle the window frames. There was a boxed set of twelve inch singles from the Born In The USA album, extended versions with gut thumping bass. Loved them.
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Post by Paddy on Jan 30, 2014 13:04:58 GMT
I don't think Hayley will ever perform Dido's Lament live though, somehow. Or I Am A Thousand Winds for that matter!
Cheers, Dave Just one of many. Paddy
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Post by Dave on Jan 30, 2014 17:51:14 GMT
I don't think Hayley will ever perform Dido's Lament live though, somehow. Or I Am A Thousand Winds for that matter!
Cheers, Dave Oops, senior moment! Betcha can't find one for Dido's Lament though! Cheers, Dave
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Post by Libby on Jan 30, 2014 21:24:34 GMT
*Jillian walks in and starts everything up again* I sometimes think that there can be two differing opinions about types of songs (and people switch depending what mood their in). 1. People who like music to be relatable to their every day problems. 2. People who like music to be removed from everyday life so as to provide an escape. Although, as a general comment, I don't think material like that particularly works unless it's coming from a place of personal relevance for the artist. Most of Hayley's music falls into the second category I listed. I think this can come across as more 'happy' due to the absence of real life drudgery and issues. I think my music preferences often do fall into your 2nd category. For one thing, there aren't very many songs I can relate to anyway, and I don't necessarily want to relate to a song. I just want to hear a song and enjoy it. And, this probably doesn't make much sense, but sometimes the sad songs are the ones that make me feel happiest to listen to! It's because I love it when a song makes me FEEL something, and lately that's what I like more than anything else. But that doesn't mean I want to be dragged down about never wanting to see someone again. I'm not so sure what's so off-topic. The youtube video of the song I Hope I Never was brought up here, I don't see how it would be off-topic. And I would have "let it rest", but the discussion was continued by someone else, and I felt like responding. I don't see how someone can bring something up, but when someone continues the discussion, and maybe doesn't agree with everything, why is it all of a sudden off-topic and not allowed to be discussed anymore? That's kind of frustrating, if you ask me. As long as I'm still on-topic, and I feel like saying something about it, I can say it if I want to. You don't have to respond anymore if you don't want to.
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Post by martindn on Jan 30, 2014 23:06:00 GMT
Well, Hayley does do the odd negative song Libby. I Dreamed a Dream for example. But for the most part her songs are positive and uplifting, and that is one of the things I love about her. It reflects her never say die attitude to life. Martin D I Dreamed a Dream is different. It's a classic song, and even though it is very sad, the music almost seems triumphant somehow. It touches me emotionally, especially when Hayley sings it. What about I Know You By Heart? That's a very sad song, yet I love it anyway. It's not saying they don't want to see someone again, it's about the joyful moments spent with a lost loved one. Same thing with Sonny, it's a heart-wrenching song. The difference is that it's sad, and yet it's not depressing. I find I often purposely seek out these types of songs, because they do touch me so emotionally when I hear them. Sonny and I Know You By Heart are a couple of those songs. I Hope I Never doesn't touch me that way. Bridge Over Troubled Water and YRMU are inspiring, uplifting songs, not "happy", necessarily. I'm not sure why anyone would get tired of songs like that, unless you're the really cynical type, or because you've heard them too many times. Yes, Libby, I agree. I quoted part of the lyric of "I Know You by Heart", the last verse, at my wife Sue's funeral service. That song has a very new and deep meaning for me now. Along with 1000 Winds and Nada Sousou. Now I know what HSJS1 was warning me about. I was told in a dream, before it was released that it would have a message for me. Another absolutely devastating song by Hayley for me is "A Crescent Moon". But despite that, it remains positive. As do all of those songs. As you say, they all take the positives out of very sad situations. And to me that is what Hayley is so brilliant at. No matter how bad things might seem there are always positives. The human spirit can always triumph over these things. That is the message of these songs and it is very powerful. Equally well you can let these things defeat you. Queen Victoria was never the same after Albert died. She was reclusive for the rest of her life. Which was about 50 years if I remember correctly. You have to fight and you have to rise above what happens however you feel. Hayley and her songs have been a huge help to me, and I can never thank her enough for that. Martin D
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Post by Libby on Jan 31, 2014 5:56:03 GMT
I'm so glad Hayley's songs are helping you through your difficult time (including those that are viewable on youtube... trying to stay on topic). I know they would help me too if I were going through something like that too. But unfortunately, I've gone through virtually nothing in my life, very good, very bad. That's why I can't identify with very many songs in the world. There are some, of course, but very few. I wouldn't wish to go through a devastating loss like you are, but if I did, at least it would mean I would have had something truly meaningful in my life to look back on.
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Post by Jillian on Jan 31, 2014 10:30:29 GMT
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, that's actually why I like a lot of Bruce Springsteen's songs. A lot of them are actually about everyday life - the uneventful and often mindnumbing reality of work, home, dinner, sleep, work, home, dinner, sleep and keep repeating.... on and on and on....
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