Thanks

[jons]

I want to say thank you, because I've decided to leave the forum because its for the best.

If I hadn't joined this forum I wouldn't of got the friendship of the members like Marianne, Comet and Grant etc. I'm really greatful for that.

I'm not leaving because I've gone off Hayley (I don't think that will ever happen).

It appears I could be putting people off joining this forum so that is the reason.

I have a some good times, so thank you so much.

[comet]

Hi Jon
Who else will do the geek thread with me. ?
and the What makes you laugh thread ?
and all the other threads that hold the garment together,
a garment that you Jon have become as much a part of as the rest of us,
Just like one of those historic American quilts forever stitched together.

comet

[meldy]

[Stephany]

Hi Jon,
I started this post over and over and still can't find what to say.
I will miss you and I hope you change your mind!

Stephany

[Gene]

I hope that you will reconsider at some point in the future, Jon. I've enjoyed reading your posts.
Good luck in all that you do,
Gene

[jons]

Thank you for the comments. Unfortunately I have hurt someone on this forum by making a false accusation. You can't really tell who someone is or really believe them on a forum until you meet them and can understand the reasons why they do things. My problems don't belong on this forum and I certainly don't won't to cause any more upset to anyone. Its up to the people who I've hurt whether they forgive me, so hopefully in the future I can return.

I'm still a member of the Official forum though, I'll probably see some of you over there.

[chungchungxavier]

So , you quitted it .

And Nicola quitted it too .

Am I correct to say that young people these days generally have a losers' attitude ?

So you gave it all up .

When things do not go in your way , you simply just withdraw yourself .

If you REALLY have an issue with someone , why don't you try to solve it through discussion / negotiation / compromising / whatever means possible ??

[genevieve]

I can certainly understand Jon's point of view. I don't appreciate the tone of yours Chung.

He has his reasons and I know from certainity that sometimes a break is necessary to re-establish goodwill with folks and sometimes with one's own conciousness.

I suggest getting to know the person before you assume anything or call them names for their choices.

[chungchungxavier]

""" I don't appreciate the tone of yours Chung. ""

Fine .
I came from a very bad background .

""sometimes a break is necessary to re-establish goodwill with folks ""

That is illogical . It's like saying "a divorce is necessary to re-establish goodwill with your spouse" .

""before you assume anything or call them names for their choices.""

I DID NOT name-call anyone .
That is slandering .

[davemcc]

Sad to see you go, but I will still see you on official forum. If I ever go, which I probably won't while this site is up and running, I will never desert Hayley and her work.

See you on the other forum.

[grant]

Jon

I don't know what made you feel that you have to leave us, we're all very diverse people and don't always agree with or understand the way other members are feeling but you, as with everyone else, has a right to be a part of this wonderful 'family'.

Just think, Jon, what you will be missing and, what you will be depriving everyone else here, of. I for one want to know what happens in your Hayley fiction thread!!

I have made a concious decision not to venture onto the official forum again. I find it cold and uninspiring - my personal opinion. Everything I need is here! Well, it will be if you stay and complete what you started!!

Best wishes
Grant

[postscript]

chungchungxavier said:

""" I don't appreciate the tone of yours Chung. ""

Fine .
I came from a very bad background .

""sometimes a break is necessary to re-establish goodwill with folks ""

That is illogical . It's like saying "a divorce is necessary to re-establish goodwill with your spouse" .

""before you assume anything or call them names for their choices.""

I DID NOT name-call anyone .
That is slandering .

Hi folks.
Your last point Chungchungxavier, were there a case to answer it would be libel (written) not slander (spoken). I write this, not to be a pedant but to suggest that in this exchange sequence fingers on keyboards are responding instinctively before brain has been engaged.

Interchange requires civility all round and respect is only gained by giving respect.

Hi Genevieve, a lovely name--did you ever see the film Genevieve? Before you get excited, it is in fact the name of a car! An old true British classic of a film. Good to see you posting.

For what ever reason this interchange arose, there are several people on this site who are drawn not just for the Hayley music magic but for the Hayley healing effect, a balm to their wounds of diverse origins.

In the days when the film Genevieve was made the road signs around hospitals in the UK used to read 'Quiet Please'--an essential component of the healing process.

May I suggest that the dialogue emanates from Jon S's desire to leave? Fine. As I said in a post to him prior to that event, not everything is for everyone all of the time. Linking that to some of the comments quoted above, 'absence makes the heart grow fonder' is apt and a time away helps to refresh and return seeing things through new eyes.

There are themes (not just Hayley's music) which suddenly grab me and I move into an over-repetitive mode with them, then move on. Some while later I come back to them and find them once more refreshing.

For what ever reason people choose to leave, return, go quiet and just read rather than participate are matters of personal choice. To say they are 'driven away'--not stated as such but I think implied--because of Moderators is to forget from where the word derives--to be moderate. In that one sees each individual view in the context of the whole. We are all here, for however brief or long a view, for the benefit derived from the collective whole. That collective view is a moderated balance of views.

Were Jon to feel he gained no benefit, particularly as he has shared with us the fact he has some difficulties in life, it is totally wrong of us to try and persuade him otherwise. If he is seeking some solace that is not here (nor elsewhere), he can always create his own blog and invite others to share the solace he feels he has to offer, than perhaps he finds with us.

Is it not presumptuous of us to think we can heal all things and be everything to everyone? All we can do is to say, 'this is why we are here, if you share these constructs, welcome, if not, share with us what you find wholesome and leave that which does not agree with you'.

Could anything be more reasonable and more caring of others and in the vein that is Hayley's rationale?

Peter S., trying to help without taking a cold shower!

[postscript]

grant said:

Jon

I don't know what made you feel that you have to leave us, we're all very diverse people and don't always agree with or understand the way other members are feeling but you, as with everyone else, has a right to be a part of this wonderful 'family'.

Just think, Jon, what you will be missing and, what you will be depriving everyone else here, of. I for one want to know what happens in your Hayley fiction thread!!

I have made a concious decision not to venture onto the official forum again. I find it cold and uninspiring - my personal opinion. Everything I need is here! Well, it will be if you stay and complete what you started!!

Best wishes
Grant

I think a better response than mine, Grant. Very well said.
Peter S..