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Post by Dave on Sept 3, 2010 12:54:29 GMT
Hi everyone, I just caught the end of a report about Jackie on the ITV lunchtime news, so UK fans might want to check the ITV evening news bulletins in case it's repeated. Cheers, Dave
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Post by Libby on Sept 4, 2010 5:28:56 GMT
Someone used Nicola's review of Winter Magic on Amazon, too, and refused to take it down or acknowledge it was not theirs. They changed things very slightly, but it was extremely obvious.
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Post by milewalker on Sept 5, 2010 4:01:25 GMT
...Well, her errant note at the end could help prove to the skeptics out there that her voice really is real! Either that, or they'll think she was off on her lip-syncing. Or maybe someone deliberately injected Auto-Tune at the end in an attempt to make her sound less than perfect which would mollify the cynics. My sincere guess is that it was because of the loud cheering that she went off her pitch since she probably couldn't hear herself sing by that point. I think they just asked a little more out of those 10 year old lungs than she could deliver. She was trying to hold a note at the top of her range for too long, and simply ran out of breath to support it. Frankly I was briefly embarrassed for her because it really wasn't her fault. I really have mixed feelings about this..... the critic within informs me that some vocal flaws are evident, but her level of vocal development at age 10 is nothing short of astonishing. I just wish she didn't have to work so hard to do this - every performance on this show has pushed her right to the edge of (or slightly beyond) her physical capabilities. I am therefore caught between being awe-struck at her current level of ability and concerned about the long term future of her vocal health. Clearly she has been given a big opportunity and her desire to run with it is also quite understandable.
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Post by Libby on Sept 5, 2010 4:30:03 GMT
Hearing her other performances on youtube makes me wonder why she thought she had to do opera. If she had done a song that was not opera, people would still think she has a wonderful voice. Now, it seems like she has to keep pushing herself every single time. Grace Bawden sang opera in Australia's GT, but on her CD, only one song could be considered opera at all. So, hopefully Jackie will do something similar. She apparently admires her as a singer, too.
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Post by milewalker on Sept 5, 2010 4:33:38 GMT
Libby, The perceived difference in material is probably why Charlotte Church made it, and Becky Taylor did not. Interestingly, Hayley is positioned between the two - and her career could indeed be viewed that way as well - Less success than Charlotte (at least in the short and mid term) but quite a bit more than Becky. Later addition - a little research on my part uncovered two performances by Jackie which stand out in their own way. She did a performance of Memory late last year - notably there is no transposition in the arrangement like there was on Hayley's recording (live and four years younger no less) - the song requires considerable range - and in this case it is her low notes that are a sound to behold. She also holds the last note for almost 15 seconds....... www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8L02T_A5vwSomething I found even more impressive was her acapella performance of the National Anthem for the Pittsburg Pirates home opener. She is pitch perfect - and I will even forgive the pop embellishment at the end because anybody who can do that at 9 deserves a chance to flaunt it once in a while. This performance is professional quality by any standard I can think of - the one maybe mistake I detect miight have simply been overembellishment.. She likes to play around with arrangements a bit to better effect at some times than others. Here's to hoping she has this voice 10 years from now.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdxnQsjhNJcJon
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Post by Libby on Sept 5, 2010 20:02:45 GMT
Who is Becky Taylor? And when did Hayley sing Memory live?
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Post by sonata58 on Sept 5, 2010 20:09:07 GMT
Wow! That performance of the National Anthem is one of the best ever.
I wish Jackie the best of luck in AGT. I hope she wins - America needs to recognize talent like this.
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Post by martindn on Sept 5, 2010 21:23:07 GMT
WOW!! Jackie is something special, for sure.
Martin D
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Post by milewalker on Sept 5, 2010 22:21:39 GMT
Who is Becky Taylor? And when did Hayley sing Memory live? Becky Taylor is (or was) a child singer who was in my opinion just as talented as Charlotte or Hayley, but for whatever reason never gained traction. I think it was because the musical choices she made were too safe. (Of course my opinion and 2 bucks will buy you a small coffee at Starbucks....) In the interest of staying on topic I wont provide a link here, but check You Tube under Becky Taylor or Becky Jane Taylor. She has an archived thread around here as well. I think I said that Jackie did a live performance of memory and Hayley's was recorded. If I didnt come across that way - well, sometimes I can scramble syntax with the best of em
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Post by nicola on Sept 6, 2010 18:30:20 GMT
Her musical choices were not safe at all - her album is quite different from the others. She didn't get anywhere because EMI didn't pump any money or promotion into her. It didn't help that Becky was set for the big time in America with much exposure, with an album launch on... September 11, 2001. Not the best of timing for Becky...
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Post by Joe on Sept 6, 2010 23:52:25 GMT
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Post by stevemacdonald on Sept 7, 2010 3:55:42 GMT
Her musical choices were not safe at all - her album is quite different from the others. She didn't get anywhere because EMI didn't pump any money or promotion into her. It didn't help that Becky was set for the big time in America with much exposure, with an album launch on... September 11, 2001. Not the best of timing for Becky... The best timing for Becky would have been long after Charlotte came and went. One phenomenal teen singing sensation is all the market can bear. The "wow" factor takes years to recharge itself. Jackie is coming in at exactly the right time. A decade has passed since America had CC and that's been plenty of time to set the stage for a brand new sensation.
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Post by milewalker on Sept 7, 2010 5:19:11 GMT
Her musical choices were not safe at all - her album is quite different from the others. She didn't get anywhere because EMI didn't pump any money or promotion into her. It didn't help that Becky was set for the big time in America with much exposure, with an album launch on... September 11, 2001. Not the best of timing for Becky... In the interest of avoiding topic drift, I will direct my response to the resurrected Becky thread
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Post by milewalker on Sept 7, 2010 7:17:37 GMT
Her musical choices were not safe at all - her album is quite different from the others. She didn't get anywhere because EMI didn't pump any money or promotion into her. It didn't help that Becky was set for the big time in America with much exposure, with an album launch on... September 11, 2001. Not the best of timing for Becky... The best timing for Becky would have been long after Charlotte came and went. One phenomenal teen singing sensation is all the market can bear. The "wow" factor takes years to recharge itself. Jackie is coming in at exactly the right time. A decade has passed since America had CC and that's been plenty of time to set the stage for a brand new sensation. Hi Steve, You are largely correct I think. However, Jackie may have some other advantages, to wit: She is even younger - her skills are age advanced even based upon the standards set by others. Check out her Panis Angelicus for example - given the lower recording standards, I think she compares pretty well to the version done by Charlotte who was almost three years older. Her range is impressive by any standard. There are many established singers of serious music who dont have anything close to that much range. The power in her lower register is freakish, if inconsistant. I noted her performance of Memory above. She not only didnt have to transpose it to avoid low notes a la Hayley, but actually improvised a bit to sing even lower She is American - the US is still the largest single market. Jon
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Post by Joe on Sept 8, 2010 3:36:44 GMT
SPOILER ALERT - USA WEST COAST VIEWERS- SPOILER ALERTIf you want to watch AGT when it airs in your time zone first - don't read below.. . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . Jackie sang 'Pie Jesu' and was absolutely flawless. And what a gorgeous lavender dress! The stage was set like a heavenly cloud of white. I wonder if Lord Webber rang Jackie yet Joe
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