We should know at least some of the chart details by this time tomorrow... and possibly later today and I'll post them first in the Official Charts thread.
There could be a News release about Hayley so if anyone finds it first, please post (but remember there is an International (Western Music) Chart and a main chart - record companies usually quote the International Chart but don't explain - to make it look like Hayley is higher than she really is
I wonder if Hayley realised the potential - she must have had some idea or she wouldn't have done it would she?
Hi Grant, It looks like a great bit of Management and planning to me. The Amazing Grace Duet 'single' +2 to tap the popularity of both the song and Minako . Then the CD, including Amazing Grace, all timed to coincide with the concert tour. The idea probably took root last year with the reception to the last tour. 'Praise where praise is due' to the decision makers !
Yeah, I found the "topsellers" lists. I even checked UK Amazon's list, and I was hoping RoD would be high on the list, but not in any category I checked there, either.
Overall, Enya's new CD was first, and Josh Groban's Noel was #5!
On Amazon.com: River of Dreams #3,286 in Music. I saw Comet's review!
Celtic Treasure #2 under Classical > Featured Composers A-Z > Monk, William Henry #9 Vocal Non-Opera > Songs & Lieder (what's that? ) #16 World Music > Australia & New Zealand
Odyssey #8 in Songs & Lieder #15 in World Music > Aust. & NZ #37 in Easy Listening > Orchestral Pop
Pure #5 (Import #11) Classical > Featured Composers A-Z > Orff, Carl #5 (Import #11) Classical > Historical Periods > Modern, 20th & 21st Century > Orff, Carl - Works by Orff #30 (Import #62) Opera & Vocal > Historical Periods > Classical (c.1770-1830) > Cantatas
Live from New Zealand #13,226 in Movies & TV #85 Easy Listening > Orchestral Pop #87 in Movies & TV > Art House & International > By Country > Aust. & NZ
Japanese Songs Music #60,723! It's because it's so expensive!
My Gift to You #55,411
Hayley Westenra #62,676 #78 in Featured Composers A-Z > Bernstein, Leonard
In Her Own Voice #262,540 Books
Related searches: Celtic Woman, Josh Groban, and Sarah Brightman
River of Dreams #8 Pop > Greatest Hits #67 Adult Contemporary
Dori, I saw your review, too!
Treasure #706 in Music
Odyssey, Special UK #1,375 in Music
Pure 2006 #5,620 in Music
Live from New Zealand #8,190 DVD #48 DVD > Classical Music
Japanese songs #21,808 Music
Prayer #24,344 Music
My Gift to You #38,163 Music
Hayley Westenra #40,236 Music
In Her Own Voice #173,597 Books
Related Searches: Enya, Hayley Westenra River of Dreams, Katherine Jenkins
Do these sellers ever take into account where the orders are coming from? Like, I bought RoD from UK amazon. Does that mean anything to them, that someone from the U.S. is buying from them? Do they count how many people from the U.S., or anywhere else, are buying that CD from them? I'm wondering if Decca pays attention to that at all.
I don't know Libby, but I doubt they are that clever. Any more than CDJapan would have collated records of how many copies of HSJS were sold overseas. It is a pity, and to their own disadvantage that they don't do that, since it is an indicator of the level of demand. If people overseas are prepared to seek out certain albums in significant numbers, is that not a hint that there might be a market there, especially with a bit of serous promotion. But I don't know what drives their decisions, and I'm becoming less and less convinced that it is the long term interests of their artists. And I don't love myself for thinking that! But they seem to be playing with us, for no discernible advantage to anyone, and all it does is cause resentment. Like you I have bought albums featuring Hayley from Japan, Australia and yes, even the USA when necessary. It is only because of HWI that I knew some of these existed. Who do these people think they are, stereotyping national populations and deciding what they will be allowed to buy? Why not just make everything available everywhere.
The idea is to put out as many "unique" products as the market will bear. It isnt necessary that an Australian release appeal specifically to Australia for example - but it is necessary for it to have a hard to find song or two to attract customers from other countries. Fans may resent it, but it doesnt matter as long as we are buying the albums. The record company is not particularly interested in our love
I think they do this with most artists, but it is actually more notiicable with an artist like Hayley - whose base sales are limited enough that the collectors make a difference. An extra ten thousand sales a year are possibly pretty important to Hayley. Making everything available everywhere only works if the artist is popular enough everywhere to cover the distribution costs. If a few thousand people import HSJS they are in effect covering the distribution costs themselves.
As far as who they think they are - well they are a business. If there is one fundamental economic rule it is that the basic reason a business exists is to make money. Sometimes they guess wrong, but businesses make these kinds of marketing decisions all the time.
Nothing in life is perfect - and I thank God for that. When we say that something is perfect we are also saying that there can be no growth because any change must be for the worse. In the end, it is our errors which declare and affirm our humanity.
2. Susan Boyle. (Surely a triumph of hype over ability?) 18. Rhydian. 23. The Priests. 36. Katherine Jenkins Believe. 54. Faryl Wonderland. 59. Fron Choir. 77. Camilla Kerslake. Down 37 places. A phrase involving pearls and swine springs to mind !
Hayley's "Winter Magic" is nowhere! Grrr! There's no justice ! Far be it from me to tell Bedlam their job but what are they playing at ? They don't seem bothered about promoting this album at all. All I've heard is one advert on the radio. Nothing on TV while Faryl and Camilla are working their socks off, to little avail it seems. I know Hayley is on "This morning" on 15th but that's over 2 weeks since it was released and just over a week before Christmas.
"My love is like a red, red rose that's newly sprung in June, My love is like a melody that's sweetly played in tune." (Robert Burns).
Hi Jeff, it sounds as though the same problem is happening in the UK re lack of promotional material.The same thing is happening here in NZ
Tonight (for the first time) I seen the first promo ad for Christmas Magic. It was on at 10.40pm (9.40am UK )in the middle of the late news on TVNZ's TV One.So far I haven't heard any radio ad's at all,but plenty of Susan Boyle,The Priests and the Seven Tenors concert tour that is coming up soon. Hayley's promotions are kicking in IMO rather late in comparison with her other albums which is annoying to say the least,here's hoping it works.
I think this chart is another lesson, if one is needed, in the importance of promotion. It is clearly vastly more important than the merits of the artist, sickening but true. Simon Cowell has several hours a week of UK prime time TV to promote his artists, Universal has nothing. So guess which artists sell here?
If universal are serious about staying in the music business they need to address this. They have some very fine artists, and they need to get them promoted. Otherwise, Faryl might regret refusing Cowell's offer, and the rest of the universal/Decca artists will sink without trace. Even Gary Barlow is struggling if Jeff is correct with Camilla, and he is doing a lot better with promotion than Decca are with any of their artists. In classical crosover, Rhydian alone is doing well, Simon Cowell again.
No wonder Katherine Jenkins jumped ship. She could see which way the wind was blowing.
Well, I've finally managed to locate a UK copy of Winter Magic in a shop. Sainsbury's Grove Farm displays the top 100 albums, but no WM, and Borders is in the middle of a closing down sale, everything is confused there but I didn't see WM there either.
So it was into the centre of Leicester and HMV, who did have it, and it is placed at no 55 in their chart! This is more than 20 places above Camilla Kerslake, but slightly behind Faryl. If this is based on actual sales it is good news. They had 20 or so copies displayed, and I moved some of them from the chart stand to the "New Releases" stand, where there weren't any.
Howvever, this might give a distorted picture, since HMV seems to be the only place where WM is available. So anyone who wants it has to buy it there, whereas Camilla and Faryl have lots of other outlets to chose from. So that could be giving WM a false position in that particular chart. But it is good news anyway, at least it was prominently displayes (even more so now| since my visit).