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Post by Dave on Aug 18, 2005 23:22:24 GMT
To reduce clutter in the Latest Chart News thread I've started this one, for all the unofficial chart news we discover almost daily from Amazon, HMV, WH Smith etc. While such charts are notoriously unstable, bouncing around all over the place, they do sometimes make exciting reading. To start the ball rolling, here's what's happening at HMV UK today - Odyssey ( Imported from Australia) currently appears 4th in their Classical Best Sellers list and 2nd in their Classical New Releases list. This is HMV UK - NOT Australia!A word of caution - Odyssey (Imported) may not in reality be their 4th best selling album in the classical section - but even if it isn't, it does show that HMV are giving it high priority at the moment. And so they should... it's Hayley and it costs £18.99
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Post by Richard on Aug 19, 2005 8:15:06 GMT
A word of caution - Odyssey (Imported) may not in reality be their 4th best selling album in the classical section - but even if it isn't, it does show that HMV are giving it high priority at the moment. And so they should... it's Hayley and it costs £18.99 Hello Dave and everybody! £18.99 is the price if you order the Australian import version of "Odyssey" from HMV on-line. If you can find it in one of their shops the price is £17.99. It appears that there are only a few copies available in selected branches, so happy hunting! Bye for now, Richard
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Post by Lothar on Aug 19, 2005 20:51:17 GMT
To reduce clutter in the Latest Chart News thread I've started this one, for all the unofficial chart news we discover almost daily from Amazon, HMV, WH Smith etc. While such charts are notoriously unstable, bouncing around all over the place, they do sometimes make exciting reading. To start the ball rolling, here's what's happening at HMV UK today - Odyssey ( Imported from Australia) currently appears 4th in their Classical Best Sellers list and 2nd in their Classical New Releases list. This is HMV UK - NOT Australia!A word of caution - Odyssey (Imported) may not in reality be their 4th best selling album in the classical section - but even if it isn't, it does show that HMV are giving it high priority at the moment. And so they should... it's Hayley and it costs £18.99 Hi Dave, maybe you can publish here my Excel tables and charts of amazon UK, US and Germany, which I sent to Keith. I will update daily and send a summery to you at the end of each month. The ranks are of Pure, Odyssey, My Gift to You, Hayley Westenra, DVD and book. cu Lothar
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Post by Dave on Aug 19, 2005 23:35:30 GMT
Hi Lothar, it's nice to know that you also like to collect this kind of information - and this is certainly the thread to post anything exciting you notice, or have noticed at Amazon, regarding Hayley. I'm glad you are on "Amazon Watch" as I only record extremes, not daily positions, and even then, not for all Hayley's CDs. I don't know at the moment if we'd want to start publishing Amazon tables, charts or historical data, and I'm sure Keith will let us both know his thoughts on it when he's digested what you sent him. Of course, in the meantime, if you ever notice anything exciting at Amazon etc. before the rest of us do... post it here before we beat you to it! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifCheers, Dave
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Post by HWI on Aug 20, 2005 0:43:42 GMT
Hi all,
Lothar's work is in the form of graphs. Fortunately, I have many years experience of working with graphs so, to me they speak volumes. However, I feel that their value on the forum could be limited as they are more of a mathematicians tool.
Let's keep it simple and stick with the charts produced by you, Dave.
Conclusions and projections drawn from your graphs could also be very interesting, Lothar. But, I don't like overcomplicating things when trying to communicate information to others.
Keith.
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Post by Dave on Aug 21, 2005 1:34:40 GMT
Hi Lothar, I'd love to know how Hayley's chart performance at Amazon over the last few months (or longer if you have it) has compared between the US, UK and Germany! Is it possible for you to write a short summary in here of the main differences between the three Countries? This will be especially interesting for Germany, as we have no idea at all how well Hayley is doing there - she hasn't been in any of the official charts for ten months! I hope you will keep up the good work with these graphs etc., I'd love to be able ask you more questions about it in the future Cheers, Dave
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Post by roger on Aug 21, 2005 12:50:48 GMT
Hi Lothar,
I must say I am fascianted about your graphs. Trends show up more clearly in a graph than in a series of charts (no offence Dave!).
Roger
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Post by Dave on Aug 21, 2005 13:01:31 GMT
Hi Lothar, Trends show up more clearly in a graph than in a series of charts (no offence Dave!). Roger Hi Roger, Although I have all necessary data in spreadsheets, I will not be publishing graphs of the official charts! (there are several good reasons for this). However, I am always happy to answer questions about the data - which includes all Hayley's releases - in the other thread. Cheers, Dave
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Post by Lothar on Aug 22, 2005 16:19:12 GMT
Hi all,
o.k I will collect more datas to write a report about special aspects of the ranks in UK, Germany, etc and try to compare them. Now I collected the dates of July and August and I will continue till the end of this year. Then we can see if it is useful to collect those datas or not. Who wants to receive my datas, please send a private e-mail to me. At the end of the month I will send the charts to you. Greetings, Lothar
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Post by Dave on Aug 23, 2005 13:41:44 GMT
Thanks Lothar, I look forward to finding out some more about the Amazon charts from you! I sometimes wonder how the average Amazon classical chart positions of Pure compare with the official Classic FM positions in the UK? Classic FM is the best comparison as they both include compilations and soundtracks but I guess at Amazon it jumps up and down a lot from day to day. I am waiting patiently for the mysterious Odyssey (UK version) to get into the Amazon UK overall Top 25 Pre-Release albums. It's come very close a few times but doesn't yet seem to have got in there Cheers, Dave
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Post by Dave on Aug 23, 2005 13:59:34 GMT
Some unofficial odds and ends today: Odyssey is up from 3 to 2 in the HMV Australia classical chart, having got ahead of both Amici Forever and Il Divo However, a new release by Patrizio Buanne "Italian" has sneaked ahead of Hayley and gone top. I think his album is even less classical than Odyssey, from what I've heard of it. They are both new entries at 17 (Patrizio) and 21 (Hayley), in HMV's main top 40 album chart. I will continue to use the HMV weekly charts temporarily in the official charts tables, whenever official charts data is (temporarily) unavailable - they usually match within a few positions. At HMV (UK) the Australian version of Odyssey is currently shown as their most popular imported album from all genres (from 9,223 listed). This doesn't prove anything, except that HMV clearly are promoting this imported Odyssey at the moment, which is good, as shown by its appearance near the top of most of their classical pages too. HMV are by far the biggest chain of music stores in the UK.
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Post by Lothar on Aug 23, 2005 21:28:07 GMT
Hi Dave, what is the difference of the Australian version of "Odyssey" I can't see anything.
Regards, Lothar
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Post by HWI on Aug 23, 2005 21:31:10 GMT
Hi Lothar,
The Australian and New Zealand versions are exactly the same.
When I was given the tracklisting for the international version, it said "with the exception of Japan, UK and USA". Which would indicate to me that there will be no more than four version of Odyssey initially.
Keith.
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Post by Dave on Aug 24, 2005 22:44:48 GMT
Odyssey Japan - at Amazon JapanAfter a struggle, I managed to locate Odyssey on the Amazon Japanese website and guess what? They spelled it wrong (Odyssy). Amazon really do seem to be pretty useless, whatever Country. Anyway, it's currently showing at no. 9 in their Classical Chart here so that's a good start! The actual Odyssey page is here.Anyway, we shall see what tomorrow brings but for now, Odyssey seems to be moving up nicely, in Japan.
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Post by Dave on Aug 25, 2005 12:39:26 GMT
Now - some confusing Hayleymania in Japan Hayley is currently in the following chart positions at Amazon Japan: Main ChartPure is at number. 10 Amazing Grace is at no. 53. Classical Chart (but see note below!!!) Odyssey is shown as no. 6 Wiegenlied is shown as no. 7. Now, it is inexplicable that Odyssey and Wiegenlied failed to enter the main chart when Amazing Grace and Pure did, so I believe Amazon have coded Odyssey and Wiegenlied wrongly and these positions are probably their MAIN CHART positions. They have never quoted classical chart positions before on a CDs main pages and it does in fact say it's the overall music chart ranking ("Inside Music"). But, Hayley's two most popular CDs don't appear in the overall chart itself. . Amazon really are turning out to be a completely USELESS bunch, these days. Correcting for this, we have: 6. Odyssey 7. Wiegenlied 10. Pure 53. Amazing Grace RESULT!!! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif
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