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Post by Dave on Nov 14, 2004 18:29:46 GMT
Boy, was it CLOSE! (Updated Monday).
This week, the last week before the re-release of Pure in the UK, it hangs on in the Classical top 20 at number 19 ! This means it will also be in the Classic FM chart around the 30 mark on Friday. Next week, it *should* shoot up quite a bit and its Classical Chart run will probably now to be extended into the New Year. However... see the final paragraph below!
Chaos reigns supreme at the top of the Classical Charts. Katherine Jenkins was restored to the top position for last week following the sudden expulsion of Russell Watson's "Amore Musica" from the classical charts. This explains why Katherine is back up to no. 1 in Saturday's Classic FM chart. However, she has the no. 1 classical album by right this week (being ahead of Russell Watson in the pop chart). Unless, that is, you count Il Divo - which has of course already been excluded.
In this week's pop album chart there are now 4 albums (including Andrea Bocelli) which many people consider to be classical crossover - but only one, Katherine, has been allowed in the classical chart.
Bryn Terfel's new release "Silent Noon" is 2nd in the new classical artist chart but the big shock is, he failed to enter the top 75 pop chart. Last year, he was neck and neck with Hayley in the top 10 of the pop chart with "Bryn".
What this all means for Hayley is that we cannot now be sure that her "Pure" Special edition, out this week, will be allowed in the classical chart at all. The charts people are getting very finicky about what counts as classical, so we shall just have to wait and see.
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Post by Dave on Nov 20, 2004 12:53:28 GMT
Hayley's current chart positions Friday 19th November 2004. [/b] All charts except Japan cover CD sales ending Saturday last week. Japan details are for end September. Blue entries - In current chart. Red entries - Out of current chart.
--Position-- Total Country Chart TW [/u] (LW) High Weeks Comments[/i] PUREUnited States Billboard 200 Album -- (--) 70 6 United States Classical Crossover 9 (8) 2 32 United States Internet Album Sales -- (--) 5 2 Canada Classical top 15 -- (--) 3 23 ' New Zealand Pop Albums t40 -- (--) 1 56 Australia HMV Classical t10 -- (--) 1 45 Japan Top 300 Albums -- (--) 27 24 ' United Kingdom Top 200 Albums -- (--) 7 *38 *24 in top 75United Kingdom Classical Artist t20 19 (17) 1 61 Still hanging on! United Kingdom Classic FM t50 31 (27) 1 61 Lucky it's a top 50 not a top 30 ' Germany Top 100 Albums -- (--) 73 3 ' AMAZING GRACEJapan Internat. Singles 5 (3) 1 46 (6 weeks behind)[/PRE][/SIZE] Notes[/u] [/color] UK The UK Special Edition of Pure is currently up to 7th classical sales rank at Amazon UK - after Hayley's almost 2 am(!!) Children in Need appearance, so it should shoot up the official chart tomorrow, if it's allowed in. It looks unlikely to get back in the pop chart at ths stage - we'll have to see what her 'Rugby' and "Des & Mel" appearances do over the next few days - and if her UNICEF concert attracts any media publicity.[/size]
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Post by Dave on Nov 21, 2004 21:00:31 GMT
Chaos reigns supreme at the top of the Classical Charts. In this week's pop album chart there are now 4 albums (including Andrea Bocelli) which many people consider to be classical crossover - but only one, Katherine, has been allowed in the classical chart.
What this all means for Hayley is that we cannot now be sure that her "Pure" Special edition, out this week, will be allowed in the classical chart at all. The charts people are getting very finicky about what counts as classical, so we shall just have to wait and see.
Kicked out, apparently.[/b][/u] Neither "Pure" nor the new UK Special Edition appear in today's new Classical Artist top 20 chart. This follows the release last Monday of the Special Edition and most certainly the sales will have been much higher than the original "Pure" last week - when it was at 19. Pure Special Edition has climbed steadily from well below 1,000 into the top 200 at Amazon (no. 6 Classical). It now looks like the UK Special Edition has been excluded from the Classical chart. Hayley is in good company - as explained in the quote above. The most likely reason for an exclusion is the smaller percentage of "true" classical tracks following the addition of 6 new tracks on a bonus CD. Pure could re-appear if the Charts Company or Decca made a barcoding or database error. This is unusual, but Nigel Kennedy was omitted for a few days, a couple of months ago, in what seems to have been an error: we shall have to wait and see. I will find out later in the week if Pure has re-entered the top 200 pop chart (it isn't in the top 75). I am not happy about it - but not particularly surprised. We seem to need a crossover chart. [/color]
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Post by Dave on Nov 26, 2004 15:26:38 GMT
Hayley's current chart positions Friday 26th November 2004. Updated Monday (UK)[/b] All charts except Japan cover CD sales ending Saturday last week. Japan details are for end September. Blue entries - In current chart. Red entries - Out of current chart.
--Position-- Total Country Chart TW [/u] (LW) High Weeks Comments[/i] PUREUnited States Billboard 200 Album -- (--) 70 6 United States Classical Crossover 8 (9) 2 33 United States Internet Album Sales -- (--) 5 2 Canada Classical top 15 -- (--) 3 23 (Currently 91st in classical chart)' New Zealand Pop Albums t40 -- (--) 1 56 Australia HMV Classical t10 -- (--) 1 45 Japan Top 300 Albums -- (--) 27 24 ' United Kingdom Top 200 Albums -- (--) 7 *38 *24 in top 75United Kingdom Classical Artist t20 14 (19) 1 62 Chart position now corrected.United Kingdom Classic FM t50 20 (31) 1 62 Also charted at 40 (see notes). ' Germany Top 100 Albums -- (--) 73 3 Updated' AMAZING GRACEJapan Internat. Singles 5 (3) 1 46 (6 weeks behind)[/PRE][/SIZE] Notes[/u][/size] [/color] UK Pure is in the UK Classic FM chart TWICE, at 20 (Special Edition) and at 40 (Original). This does confirm that the Classical Artist chart EXCLUDED Pure as it cannot be lower in the Artist Chart than the Classic FM chart. Hopefully a correction will be applied next week as both UK classical charts are rarely out of step and never for more than one week. Pure SE is now IN the Classical Artist chart after being left out by the charts people in error. Chart table now corrected accordingly.
Unfortunately, sales of the two versions were not combined for chart purposes - probably because of confusing new chart rules and the Special Edition having more than three new tracks on it. It's still possible they can be combined for Awards purposes (e.g. Platinums) as different rules apply.
The UK Special Edition of Pure is holding well in the top 10 Amazon UK classical rankings - helped by Hayley's two TV appearances and the high charting "Classical Album 2005" and "Christmas Album" on which Hayley has solo or duetted tracks. The former is 10th in the pop compilations chart and Aled's Christmas Album (with Silent Night duet) is likely to enter the main pop chart around 40th on Sunday. Both should be in the next classical top three.
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Post by Dave on Nov 29, 2004 20:38:45 GMT
OK, as explained in my previous post the UK Classical Artist chart omitted Pure Special Edition last week by mistake; this was corrected in time for the Classic FM chart (issued later in the week) and this week, the Classical Artist chart has caught up. The correct position last week is easy to work out, by ignoring compilations in the Classic FM Chart: it's no. 14. Incidentally, the chart people had a bad day last Sunday - the Classical Album 2005 was omitted from the Classical compilations chart, also by mistake. I've now corrected last week's chart table, here
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Post by HWI on Nov 30, 2004 11:04:54 GMT
Excellent news, Dave. Thank you for all the work you put in to bring us these figures. Personally, I find them fascinating.
The only remaining piece of information I would like to find out is - what is the longest any album has ever been in the UK charts? In fact, a sort of chart of the longest running entries, with Pure in it's rightful place in the list. It must be pretty close to the top by now, if not already there.
Keith.
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Post by roger on Nov 30, 2004 18:29:47 GMT
The only remaining piece of information I would like to find out is - what is the longest any album has ever been in the UK charts? In fact, a sort of chart of the longest running entries, with Pure in it's rightful place in the list. It must be pretty close to the top by now, if not already there. Keith. I have been wondering the same thing. And, if Keith hasn't given Dave enough to do(!), I also wonder what is the highest selling album (worldwide) of all time. I think, for a single, Bing's "White Christmas" may hold the record but I have no ideas about the best selling album. Can anybody help with that? Roger
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Post by Dave on Nov 30, 2004 22:13:40 GMT
Hmmm... there are some tricky questions there!
Keith, nobody has kept historical records of the UK Classical charts that I'm aware of (prior to me, this year), but I can give you some idea of the performance of pop and classical records in the main pop chart (below). There's no chance of an "all-time" classical chart record by the way, as the top 3 for longevity in *this week's* Classical Artist chart are: 1) Karl Jenkins - The Armed Man - A Mass for Peace, 108 weeks . 2) Amici Forever - Opera Band, 63 weeks. 3) Hayley, 62 weeks.
The longest stay in the UK artist album chart is Bridge over Troubled Water by Simon & Garfunkel, 1970-75, 278 weeks. For a group, it's Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd (211 weeks, 1973-2003 but may have added 1 or 2 more this year). I have them both. For a female artist, it's Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morissette (94 weeks, 1995-2000).
I started checking on classical artists a while back but the work isn't yet complete. Hayley has certainly beaten Charlotte Church's longest album chart run, in the top 75, which was 20 weeks (11 consecutive) with Voice of an Angel. Pure reached 24 weeks in the top 75, 22 consecutive. It looks like Russell Watson beat that, however, with "The Voice" which has been in and out since 2001 and now totals about 40 weeks (about 25 consecutive).
I hope to have more information on Russell and also the 3 Tenors before too long. I don't think Sarah Brightman can match Hayley, neither can Andrea Bocelli with his *classical* charting albums. It'll be a while before I can do a full list though.
As far as sales go, Hayley is currently close to Charlotte's best, which is ahead of Russell I think. The Three Tenors In Concert wins, with way over a million genuine UK sales, but I don't yet know how long it stayed in the charts. Only Pavarotti and the Three Tenors have reached Triple Platinum awards for UK classical sales (shipments!) as far as I can see, so if Pure does make it (big if!) it will be in exalted company.
Roger, the biggest selling album in the World is Thriller by Michael Jackson with 54 million, and in the UK it's still Sgt Pepper (Beatles) with 4.5 million. I have that one, too
Candle in the Wind (1997) by Elton John (Lady Di's funeral etc.) is the biggest selling single with 37 million worldwide and White Christmas no. 2 with 30 million. Elton sold 4.86 million in the UK alone.
Best I can do right now, chaps!
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Post by Dave on Dec 3, 2004 22:58:32 GMT
Hayley's current chart positions Friday 3rd December 2004. Updated Saturday (UK, Notes)[/b] All charts except Japan cover CD sales ending Saturday last week. Japan details are still for end September. Blue entries - In latest chart. Red entries - Out of latest chart.
--Position-- Total Country Chart TW [/u] (LW) High Weeks Comments[/i] PUREUnited States Billboard 200 Album -- (--) 70 6 United States Classical Crossover 7 (8) 2 33 United States Internet Album Sales -- (--) 5 2 Canada Classical top 15 -- (--) 3 23 ' New Zealand Pop Albums t40 -- (--) 1 56 Australia HMV Classical t10 -- (--) 1 45 Japan Top 300 Albums -- (--) 27 24 ' United Kingdom Top 200 Albums -- (--) 7 *38 *24 in top 75United Kingdom Classical Artist t20 8 (14) 1 63 United Kingdom Classic FM t50 13 (20) 1 63 Also appears at 28 (see notes) ' Germany Top 100 Albums -- (--) 73 3 ' AMAZING GRACEJapan Internat. Singles 5 (3) 1 46 Positions at end of Sept 2004[/PRE][/SIZE] Notes[/u][/size] [/color] UK Pure again appears TWICE in the Classic FM chart, at 13 (SE, up from 20) and 28 (up from 40). This is CRAZY as it should, obviously, be much higher on the combined sales. The reason is that Decca broke the chart rules for combining sales, when they added more than 3 new tracks to the bonus cd. However, the SE regains its place in the Classical Artist chart, after being left out through last week's apparent mistake. It is still holding well in the top 10 Amazon UK classical rankings, around 200 overall.
The "Classical Album 2005" and "Christmas Album" on which Hayley has solo or duetted tracks are now 1st and 3rd in the new Classic FM chart (9th overall compilation; 37th in the pop artist chart, respectively).
US The only other action is in the US where Hayley is now touring - and after yesterday's first performance of her PBS Special in NY and some other places, Pure shot up at Amazon.com from 634 to 94 early this morning and is currently at 75 there. I assume the further jump was after Hayley appeared on NBC's "Today" Friday morning, singing in near-freezing temperatures to back an ice skater. It will be interesting to see what happens as more and more stations broadcast the PBS Special and the tour progresses.
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Post by HWI on Dec 3, 2004 23:34:44 GMT
NBC's "Today" showed the skating spectacular with Katarina Witt. Hayley was on it, singing Who Painted The Moon Black. However, it seems that the broadcasters interrupted the programme with a special broadcast from President Bush. Apparently, this lasted for quite a long time so, the Hayley part of the show was ruined.
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Post by Dave on Dec 4, 2004 3:04:11 GMT
NBC's "Today" showed the skating spectacular with Katarina Witt. Hayley was on it, singing Who Painted The Moon Black. However, it seems that the broadcasters interrupted the programme with a special broadcast from President Bush. Apparently, this lasted for quite a long time so, the Hayley part of the show was ruined. Keith. Aha, it seems that all is not as it first seemed! See my post here i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif
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Post by Dave on Dec 7, 2004 10:06:59 GMT
UK: TESCO - YES!!! i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif
At long last, Tesco (UKs biggest supermarket chain) have put Pure Special Edition in their chart - and on their CD shelves - at number 46 in the top 100 after refusing to stock it at all until this week.
This high placing is clearly not justified by its sales before this week - and it must mean Tesco will be doing a Christmas marketing push. It's close behind (at Tesco) Katherine Jenkins' and Aled Jones' new albums, who have both just got their Gold discs at the top of the classical chart. Well done Decca in doing the deal - it will make a HUGE difference to the sales of Pure between now and the New Year - just watch it climb the (real) charts!
What's noticeable already is that the album went up yesterday to its highest placing at Amazon UK (no. 124, classical 6) since the Special Edition was released - EDIT - Amazon have just posted a "nearly out of stock" notice: "Availability: usually dispatched within 24 hours. Only 2 left in stock but more will be available--order now." Within 5 minutes, this dropped to "1 available" then 0 (available in 2 to 3 days). Must be selling like hot cakes!
The US version is holding up reasonably well in the Amazon.com top 100 (83 this morning but drifting downwards).
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Post by Dave on Dec 10, 2004 17:06:37 GMT
Hayley's current chart positions Friday 10th December 2004. Edit (Notes) in blue italic.[/i] All charts except Japan cover CD sales ending Saturday last week. Japan details are still for end September. Blue entries - In latest chart. Red entries - Out of latest chart.
--Position-- Total Country Chart TW [/u] (LW) High Weeks Comments[/i] PUREUnited States Billboard 200 Album -- (--) 70 6 United States Classical Crossover 5 (7) 2 34 United States Internet Album Sales -- (--) 5 2 Canada Classical top 15 -- (--) 3 23 ' New Zealand Pop Albums t40 -- (--) 1 56 Australia HMV Classical t10 -- (--) 1 45 Japan Top 300 Albums -- (--) 27 24 ' United Kingdom Top 200 Albums -- (--) 7 *38 *24 in top 75United Kingdom Classical Artist t20 6 ( 8) 1 64 United Kingdom Classic FM t50 11 (13) 1 64 Also appears at 30 (see notes) ' Germany Top 100 Albums -- (--) 73 3 Not yet updated but unlikely to be in. ' AMAZING GRACEJapan Internat. Singles 5 (3) 1 46 Positions at end of Sept 2004[/PRE][/SIZE] Notes[/u][/size] [/color] UK Pure yet again appears TWICE in the Classic FM chart, at 11 (SE, up from 13) and 30 (down from 28). This is still CRAZY as it should, obviously, be higher on the combined sales. It is slowly improving at Amazon.uk, currently overall 124, classical 6th..
The "Classical Album 2005" and "Christmas Album" on which Hayley has solo or duetted tracks are now 2nd and 3rd in the new Classic FM chart. And at my local Tesco, their new stock of 9 "Pures" on the shelf had gone down to 4 by Friday evening - a lot faster than Aled Jones or Katherine Jenkins' albums.
US Pure is up from 7 to 5 in the crossover chart but disappointingly failed to enter the Billboard 200. It's also drifted lower at Amazon.com, to around 140 as I write. PBS Specials in some areas, a TV appearance on ABC and the 2nd half of Hayley's tour are still to come however, so all is not lost. TEXT
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