Treasure - International version

[jeroen]

Hi all,

'We now know the covers and tracklists for the UK edition of Treasure and the US release of Celtic Treasure. We've also heard of a Japanese version with one bonus track.

The one that's remained a mystery up until now is the international edition of Treasure.

I think I've found it on www13.cd-wow.com/detail_results.php?product_code=1885987

As you can see, it has the same tracks as Celtic Treasure and the same cover picture, except for the name. It doesn't have the word Celtic on it (just like the one which can be seen on Hayley's official website).

Jeroen

[meagan]

On Hayley's website, it shows that the International version has the same tracklisting and cover as the UK version! The one on that website is probably the NZ or AUSTRALIA version (the same as the US except it's just called Treasure). i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif

[grant]

I have just had a look on Ebay and found the International release of Treasure available for pre-order.

Interestingly, the track listing shown is identical to the UK release with the US cover with the word "Celtic" removed.

I have Emailed the seller for confirmation as an Italian seller is offering 10 as available now but with the US track listing!!

Grant

[grant]

I have now had a reply from the Ebay seller referred to in my previous post. He advises that the track listing has been quoted to him by his supplier, who is outside the UK and that he cannot confirm anything until his stock arrives.

I have now Emailed the Italian seller to confirm his track listing as his stock appears to be available now!

Watch this space

Grant

[grant]

This is an important message for anyone thinking of buying the version of Treasure that CD.WOW appear to be offering.

The cover in their advert clearly shows the title as "Treasure" my copy just arrived this morning and guess what!! They've sent me "Celtic Treasure"!

So don't order if you're after the International release

Grant

Update: I have Emailed CD.WOW explaining that advertising this item in this way is going to cause serious confusion. Let's wait and see what happens :zz

[Dave]

grant said:

This is an important message for anyone thinking of buying the version of Treasure that CD.WOW appear to be offering.

The cover in their advert clearly shows the title as "Treasure" my copy just arrived this morning and guess what!! They've sent me "Celtic Treasure"!

Thanks for this warning Grant. I would urge everyone to take care when dealing with this Company as they have been importing cheap CDs from South East Asia and selling them in Europe against the EU Law. My guess is that this is why you got the wrong version.

They have also broken a Court Injunction from a few years ago to stop doing this so the Record Industry had to take them to Court again. CDWOW lost again and are about to receive another batch of heavy fines. The Judge was not impressed by their claims of "human error".

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6471863.stm

Judge rules against cheap CD site

Online music store CD-Wow has been found in contempt of court for selling illegally imported cheap CDs in the UK. The High Court in London ruled that the site's owners, Music Trading Online, were "in substantial breach" of a 2004 agreement to stop selling such albums.

Record companies complained that the site broke a deal not to buy cheap CDs in places like Hong Kong and re-sell them in the UK without permission.

CD-Wow said the judgement "spelled disaster for millions of music fans".

The company will be fined in July after an inquiry into how much it owes the record labels who complained of copyright infringement.

With retail sales of £21.7m in the UK in 2005, CD-Wow was the third largest online music retailer in the UK after Amazon and Play.

If Amazon and Play.com can trade lawfully and sell CDs fairly cheaply, why can't CDWOW? If they did, we might have a better chance of getting the correct CD version.

Dave

[grant]

Thanks for the info Dave - if I'd known all that, I wouldn't have ordered from them and I've deleted them from my bookmarks!!

I must say that until the CD arrived, I had no idea they were based in Hong Kong. I can't see anything on their web site that says so, and there is no mention of the sender on the packaging.

The only inserts were three flyers, again with no address details.

I suppose I should have been suspicious at the lack of technical information/catalogue numbers etc!!

Anyway, I sent them a detailed Email about the differences and it will be interesting to see if they take any action.

We live and learn!

Grant

[grant]

Still on the same subject - Is anyone else as confused as I am about the so called 'International' release?

There are a couple of sellers on Ebay offering 'something' with the red dress album cover but no catalogue numbers are quoted and the sellers don't seem to know much about what they are offering!

OPUSCDS.com are offering an album with the US track listing BUT with the UK album cover. They are also quoting a catalogue number which is different to the other releases I have seen got. i.e 475-876-1

Any ideas?

Grant

[roger]

Hi Grant,

I can't comment specifically because I haven't seen many versions yet. In general, there are specific editions for the UK, US, Aust, NZ, HK and a few others, and one for everywhere else. It is that which is called the International Edition. I am not aware that it has yet been released.

Roger

[grant]

Thanks Roger - But I'm still confused

Grant

[Dave]

Hi Grant,

I do not think CDWOW are based in HK but they have been buying in some of their stock from there because it is a lot cheaper than buying it from inside the UK (or EU) to sell to the UK, which is what they are supposed to do. But they wouldn't have been able to get hold of the UK edition at a cheap price from HK!

Hayley's official website states that the International Edition of Treasure will be the same as the UK version, however, we cannot yet be sure of this because Decca/Universal seem to be allowing each Country where Hayley has a major market to mix and match their own title (from one of the two), their own cover (from one of the two) and their own tracklisting (from one of the two).

Additionally, Japan has been allowed to add a bonus track and I will now guess that later in the year, more bonus tracks will appear on Special Editions of (Celtic) Treasure in the usual places, Australia NZ and the UK.

All of which makes it difficult to know exactly what the International Edition will eventually turn out to be, whatever is written on the Official website. (Celtic) Treasure seems to be a moving target at the moment...

If we are not yet clear about the various editions, you can be certain that most EBAY sellers and many retailers who buy stock from outside their own Country won't have a clue.

Cheers, Dave

[grant]

Thanks Dave, that makes a lot of sense.

For those, like me, who like to collect all the different releases, it's very useful to know what's happening. Clearly no one does at the moment

Best wishes

Grant

[grant]

Hi Dave, Roger and all

I've now had an Email from CDWOW apologising for their error and promising to sent me the correct item immediately. (Wonder what I'll get this time?)

They've asked me to return the CD they sent to an address in Cyprus

Incidentally, they have now changed the title in their listing to "Celtic Treasure" although the picture is still "Treasure", although they don't list "Treasure" itself.

Grant