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Post by martindn on Jun 7, 2008 21:40:43 GMT
Hi Stuart,
Yes I agree, few singers can match Hayley's versatility. I too enjoyed the Heather Small duet, and also the stuff with Dave Dobbyn. Her beautiful new Japanese album shows her moving in another direction (or more than one). However, hits don't come out of thin air very often. People won't buy music they don't know exists. Bringing it to people's attention requires promotion, and that costs money. In a large country like the US, it costs a lot of money. And even that doesn't guarantee success. For example, a year ago I was raving about CW A New Journey, but it wasn't promoted properly in the UK and I don't think many copies were sold (I bought mine in the US anyway, as did many others in the know). ISTR there was ONE showing of a TV advert the night before it was released over here. But there is certainly a market for the sort of "quality pop" that is on the Japanese Album, and something like that could sell well if released in the right places and promoted enough. I suspect it has more potential in the US than either classical or Irish music.
Martin
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Post by Umbobo on Jun 7, 2008 21:49:18 GMT
Hi Martin,
Well i can tell you that Irish music is very big over here, especially on the east coast. all kinda of Irish music is popular over here, Irish punk, Irish tenors, Irish sopranos etc, so i think the USA has great potential as well.
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Post by milewalker on Jun 8, 2008 0:08:00 GMT
As Stephany attests, she did get a small boost from Celtic Woman Don't underestimate the affect that Celtic Woman had on Hayley. Hey, if it weren't for Celtic Woman, I wouldn't be here. Hi sonata, I would like to believe that the Celtic Woman tour had a more definitive effect that the rather general and broad ones discussed (long ago) on this thread. However, one thing I did not see was any particular impact on the performance of Celtic Treasure. Because of this, while I understand that the the tour may have brought in a few thousand people, that isnt enough on its own to make much difference - at least not enough to keep a release on the chart more than a couple of weeks. Jon
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Post by martindn on Jun 8, 2008 18:24:05 GMT
I wonder how her Japanese album would go down in the US. It would need promotion of course, but do any of you across the pond think it could succeed there?
Martin
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Post by Joe on Jun 9, 2008 2:59:05 GMT
I wonder how her Japanese album would go down in the US. It would need promotion of course, but do any of you across the pond think it could succeed there? Hello Martin, It's difficult to say how the Japanese album would fare in the US. The Japanese ethnic community makes up 3.4% of the total American population. Most reside in the states of Hawai'i, New York, and California. I see the best chance of the Japanese album at its best, is if it is tied in with a popular anime series. The just-released animated movie "Kung Fu Panda" would have been brilliant with a song played during the end credits!
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Post by stuartj on Jun 9, 2008 3:10:19 GMT
I don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere, but what is the potential impact of Hayley's singing for NATO troops in Afganisthan? It seems to me that even though the two wars are not popular the military still are (unlike during Vietnam, perhaps), and Hayley's reputation in the US could gain greatly from that tour.
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Post by larryhauck on Jun 10, 2008 14:20:11 GMT
Stephan, I agree that acting on the broadway stage is different than just singing the music;however Hayley states in her book that she acted in many N Z productions in her earlier years. She has had training in the acting field. But she chose to pursue a music career. Hayley is a multi-talented determined person and I don't think she'd have any trouble with acting. Hayley is also an accomplished dancer. That would help enormously. Even if she hooked up with a touring company it wouldn't take long for her talent to propel her to the top in either hte U S or the U K.
Larry
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Post by stevemacdonald on Jun 10, 2008 14:28:32 GMT
...Hayley is also an accomplished dancer. ... That's interesting, Larry, but what exactly did she "accomplish" in dancing? I know her only as a singer and have never once spotted her performing any dance moves to speak of. Has anyone else?
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Post by milewalker on Jun 10, 2008 16:38:01 GMT
There are video snippets of a rather young Hayley at ballet practice on YouTube....and she apparantely did some dancing on stage in New Zealand. Having said this, I suspect that dancing went much the same way as the violin in terms of her career.
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Post by milewalker on Jun 10, 2008 16:57:28 GMT
I wonder how her Japanese album would go down in the US. It would need promotion of course, but do any of you across the pond think it could succeed there? Hello Martin, It's difficult to say how the Japanese album would fare in the US. The Japanese ethnic community makes up 3.4% of the total American population. Most reside in the states of Hawai'i, New York, and California. I see the best chance of the Japanese album at its best, is if it is tied in with a popular anime series. The just-released animated movie "Kung Fu Panda" would have been brilliant with a song played during the end credits! Hello Martin and Joe, I will likely post something in more detail once I have had a chance to hear and absorb the album. Having said this, there is nothing about a Japanese CD per se which would resonate in America as far as I can tell. An album of "high quality" pop would be a different proposition altogether - but even then she has some negatives to overcome here before it got a fair shot. Jon
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Post by larryhauck on Jun 10, 2008 18:19:14 GMT
Steve, My reference to Hayley's dancing skills come from Hayley herself. She talks about it in her last book. Also if you've been to many broadway productions you would have seen that the dance ensemble does all the complex dance steps and that the vocalist/actor only does a minimal amount of dancing.
Larry
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Post by martindn on Jun 10, 2008 18:26:40 GMT
Well, the way to get noticed might be to get onto something like Strictly Come Dancing or its American equivalent (Dancing with the Stats I think). But then again, I'm nit sure how keen Hayley would be on prancing around half naked!
Martin
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Post by stevemacdonald on Jun 10, 2008 21:58:46 GMT
I'm sure that Hayley's dancing -- no matter how good -- can not be anywhere near the level of her singing, so why not keep it under wraps since it would be a distraction at best. If we have to resort a gimmick, why not have her partake in something silly like "Celebrity Circus" which has the stars flying on the trapeze or riding atop elephants?
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Post by larryhauck on Jun 11, 2008 1:17:21 GMT
To all my detractors, O ye of little faith, I don't want to offend anyone; but I find it perplexing that you have such little faith in Hayley. Some say she's too shy, some say she can't dance, some say she can't sell out bigger venues, and some say she can't act. I can understand the Europeans wanting to keep her bottled up in their world; but I can't see why you Americans are such doubting Thomas'. I think you underestimate our girl. She's tenacious as hell, and I think she can do anything she sets her mind to. I say ,GO GIRL, the worlds your oyster.
Have faith, Larry
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Post by Libby on Jun 11, 2008 4:10:02 GMT
I suspect it has more potential in the US than either classical or Irish music. If this is true, then why is Celtic Woman so popular here, even more so than in even Ireland itself? And what about Enya? Well, Enya's success is probably partially due to her song for the Lord of the Rings, but I heard her songs on the radio here before that movie came out, particularly "Orinoco Flow", and that one that says something about "only time".
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