A little while ago, I received the message "Upgrade in progress" so I thought that was it for tonight! was going to bed, but just had a look to see what was happening and it appears we have been upgraded
1 Member, 1 Guest. Most users online was 125, Jul 1, 2007, 6:13am grant
Just how reliable is the "709 Guests" bit? I have severe doubts about the accuracy of that statistic, as in recent times I have experienced vast numbers of guests also at the Holly-Holyoake Proboard forum and Belinda's Zoe Mace Proboard forum over a 24-hour period (occasionally in excess of 100).
Now, whichever way you look at it, neither Holly nor Zoe are likely to attract visitors in such large numbers. I suspect a lot of double-counting is going on when it comes to registering guest visitors, quite possibly even to such a degree that if I were to visit a forum 20 times in an hour as unregistered guest, that would account for 20 guests already. So it is also possible that people who have a habit of signing in everytime they visit, are already counted twice, once as guest before signing in, and once as member after signing in.
At the moment, I can't give much credence to the "Guests" statistic on any Proboard forum. They would need to clarify first how they achieve the "Guests" total.
Dave usually accuses me of being the HWI stats guy so, if I may, I will reply while he puts his feet up!
To be honest, I have no confidence in the accuracy of that particular statistic whatsoever. I think it is hopelessly inaccurate, probably for the very reasons that you described. Earlier today, it said that this forum had been viewed by 1074 guests in the last 24 hours. According to the TrafficFile stats counter, we actually received 268 and that included the members!
Like you, I have come to the conclusion that it is counting every visitor who returns within minutes whereas TrafficFile has a 12-hour window.
As far as I can tell, all other stats are fairly reliable.
I agree with you about the other stats - the record for membership visitors inspires confidence, as all members are identified by their sign-up name, and to my knowledge, nobody has ever been listed twice for visiting the forum multiple times within a 24-hour period!
Besides, a visitor-proportion of registered members of anything between 50 and 80 on a forum with a membership as currently recorded here seems to be very reasonable.
See you soon at the Classical Brits .
PS 268 as recorded by the TrafficFile stats counter appears to me to be very reliable. I compare that with the stats of daily visitors to my Katherine-Jenkins-International site, which usually fluctuates between 150 and 350 (with occasional peaks to close to 800, but that is only at times when there is a very high outside level of publicity, like a few weeks before Christmas, just after the release of a new CD while a high publicity concert tour is going on too).
That is very pleasing. One of my concerns was that some of our less regular members may try to log in for a day or two and come to the conclusion that we had closed down (if they didn't know otherwise). Hopefully, more of them will try again in the coming days.
I can reveal that one of the invisible users was me whilst logged in as Admin (screen name HWI). Perhaps I should explain the reason why I have two IDs...
Had I set up the forum (as I did at AAI), I would automatically have full admin control over all parts of the forum. Although we can make other members administrators, they only have control over about 95 per cent of the admin area, as I do here.
This forum was set up by Keith and, shortly before he died (December 2005) he made it possible for me to obtain his login details. I therefore use my own ID for posting, moderating and most of the admin work, but have to log in as admin for the remainder. The only reason why it is hidden is to avoid questions being asked repeatedly as to who it is. There really isn't any secret!