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Post by socalboy on Mar 2, 2009 22:33:10 GMT
Hi Peter, I am looking at it from Hayley's and Decca's perspective, not Classic FM's. But the show was clearly created for and promoted for all of its existence as the place to listen to all or most of the classical chart, and that is why most of its audience listened, I think. So when it starts to move away from its fundamental purpose, as it seems to be doing these days, it is for me, a cause for concern. Classic FM are of course free to change anything they want but they should not expect to carry its original audience with them. Now, it seems to be closer to "some songs from the classical chart" rather than the Official Classic FM Chart Show. But I won't write to Classic FM about it as I don't think Hayley needs it any more. Decca may take a different view. Cheers, Dave Hi Dave. Thanks for clarifying your 'viewing' perceptions. Do the points I have emboldened not raise an interesting parallel? Developing/expanding Hayley herself? Am I not right in understanding that the Classicfm audience is increasing in numbers, arguably despite the changes (or arguably the changes have not had sufficient time to sink in)? Is it perhaps not a good thing if Hayley can in fact be taken away from the 'ratings war'. She is herself and that is sufficient? If then she 'casts to the winds' predefined concepts: meeting classical criteria; the right balance of songs for specific genres etc, is that not one heck of a statement for her and other artists and we may get back to valuing artists for themselves not to please the accountants' statistical analyses? Let them stick with determining how many of what type of teas and coffees were sold in the cafeteria and leave us to remember we are in the entertainment industry dealing with the subjective issues of artistry, governed by individuality, not conformity to artificially created classifications for juggling accountants? Peter S. This whole business of genre/classification is a big topic in the music industry stateside right now, particularly as sales continue to plummet. In our case, the squabbling tends more to be between pop and country labels, since classic crossover is virtually non-existent. Country purists claim that crossing over to pop is killing the country format, and pop fans argue that "going country" is the last refuge of a fading pop star. In the end, I'm with Dave that if Hayley makes a great album, they will come. But the devil is in the marketing, and the industry mavens will tell you it's a lot easier to sell something when you know what to call it.
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Post by martindn on Mar 2, 2009 23:17:58 GMT
Hi Peter and Dave,
I agree totally that artists should not constrain their creativity to stay within these artificial boundaries we call genres. But unfortunately radio stations do stick to their own kinds of music for the most part. Are you suggesting that Hayley should not need radio plays any more? Surely if she is not played at least a bit by radio stations, most people won't know that her new record exists, let alone ave any idea of what it is like. For that reason, watever the artist would choose to day, the record company are likely to use their influence to target specific stations and their known preferences, so that at least the music gets played somewhere.
Martin
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Post by Richard on Mar 7, 2009 14:11:24 GMT
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Post by Richard on Mar 14, 2009 13:18:01 GMT
Hayley's 'Pure' is down four places at No.12 in this week's Classic FM Chart. Sadly 'River of Dreams' has now dropped out of the top thirty. The Priests have been toppled from the No.1 spot by Puccini's 'Madama Butterfly', starring Angela Gheorghiu. www.classicfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=251563Richard
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Post by Richard on Mar 21, 2009 14:25:07 GMT
Hayley's 'Pure' has gone up four places to No.8 in this week's Classic FM Chart, and 'River of Dreams' is back at No.24. As expected, Faryl Smith has gone straight in at No.1 with her album 'Faryl'. www.classicfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=251563Richard
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Post by Richard on Mar 28, 2009 11:22:19 GMT
There are no significant changes to report in this week's Classic FM Chart. 'River of Dreams' is a non-mover at No.24, 'Pure' is also a non-mover at No.8, and Faryl Smith is still at No.1 for the second week. www.classicfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=251563Richard
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Post by Dave on Apr 1, 2009 14:44:18 GMT
Hello everyone, I think we should summarize in the Charts thread Hayley's Japan chart performance to date with: " Hayley Sings Japanese songs 2" - otherwise, the information will increasingly be lost in the main "Albums" threads. In its release week, it entered the official ORICON albums chart at no. 16, with a sales estimate of 7,495. Last week, it was no. 30 with 4,808 sales. This week (out today) I cannot see it in the top 50 and that's all I have access to at the moment. I will probably be able to obtain the actual position in the top 300 later on, but it may take a week or two. Let us hope that Hayley's NHK TV appearance yesterday helps it to climb the chart next week. Cheers, Dave
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Post by Dave on Apr 2, 2009 1:10:25 GMT
Hello everyone,
Update on Hayley Sings Japanese songs 1
Yajimari21 on UKMIX has just posted extracts from Oricon Top 300 for last week (when HSJS2 was no. 30).
HSJS1 re-entered the chart 2 weeks ago, something it has clearly been doing regularly over the last 6 to 8 months. It was no. 174 last week with sales of 946 and a total to date of 72,234 and 26 weeks in the chart so far.
This is an excellent achievement for a foreign singer in Japan, comparable with some of the biggest "foreign" pop stars. Because of the strength of the Yen, there now seems to be no doubt that Hayley's best market in the World for income from record sales is... Japan.
Cheers, Dave
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Post by Richard on Apr 4, 2009 12:39:12 GMT
Hello everybody! 'Pure' has dropped eighteen places to No.26 in this week's Classic FM Chart, and 'River of Dreams' has cascaded out of the top thirty. Faryl Smith is still at No.1 for the third week running. www.classicfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=251563The Easter weekend will be taken up by the 2009 Hall of Fame countdown, so the weekly chart will be back on Saturday 18th April. Richard
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 5, 2009 0:52:11 GMT
Hi Richard,
I think it's time for Hayley to spread her wings and try new things and new places. Don't ask me how . Thats up to her handlers.
Larry
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Post by Richard on Apr 5, 2009 7:35:06 GMT
Hello Larry! 'Pure' is still doing very well, even though the album is nearly six years old. Richard
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Post by Richard on Apr 18, 2009 13:20:58 GMT
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Post by larryhauck on Apr 18, 2009 14:18:55 GMT
Hi Richard,
Is Faryl Smith as good as she's given credit for or is it just her age that is producing so many accolades? Having never seen or heard her I'm curious. Didn't Hayley get the same attention when she was a neophyte?
Larry
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Post by Richard on Apr 18, 2009 14:26:36 GMT
Hello Larry! I'm reserving judgement on Faryl Smith until I've seen her at the Classical Brit Awards next month. Richard
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Post by martindn on Apr 18, 2009 21:33:01 GMT
Hi Larry,
Well, having seen her sing live I have to say I was impressed! For her age she is phenomenal. But obviously not truly comparable with a more mature singer like Katherine or Hayley. That she has huge potential is clear. How that is realised remains to be seen. I think I prefer the albums that Hayley made at that age to Faryl's though.
Martin
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