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Post by Libby on Apr 8, 2012 4:53:23 GMT
One thing she's mentioned is working with people of other genres. In more recent interviews, she's expressed interest in working with Damian Rice, Mumford & Sons, and the Foo Fighters. I'm not familiar with the last 2 at all, and I only know the Blower's Daughter from Damian Rice. Oh, and I remember he did a song for the the movie called I Am David. I don't remember what it sounded like though.
In her latest tweet, she said that yesterday, she was working with her favorite writing partner. The only writers she's worked with on her albums more than once are Jeff Franzel and Sarah Class. Me, Martin, and Juliette are all thinking it must be Jeff, since she's worked with him more recently, and more often. I love songs that she's done with both of those writers, so either way, I'm looking forward to hearing the result, if she uses them for the next album! She'd better! :wink:
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Post by comet on Apr 8, 2012 10:39:18 GMT
How about Suzi Kim, Don Black or Debbie Wiseman  |
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Post by martindn on Apr 8, 2012 16:28:09 GMT
Suzi Kim was only involved in Hayley's Japanese albums, I suspect primarily as a translator.
Don Black - Have they ever worked together in person? I doubt it. And he is primarily a lyricist, like Hayley, hayley usually works with composers.
Debbie wiseman used Hayley's voice as a musical instrument. No record of them ever writing songs together.
Could also mention Karl Jenkins and Mike Oldfield.
But me, I'll stick with Jeff Franzel.
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Post by Martin on Apr 8, 2012 19:19:51 GMT
Don Black - Have they ever worked together in person? I doubt it. And he is primarily a lyricist, like Hayley, hayley usually works with composers. Martin D Hi Martin Don Black wrote the lyrics to "Would He Even Know Me Now" (Cinema Paradiso). I would be astonished if there wasn't a degree of collaboration. Martin |
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Post by Libby on Apr 9, 2012 4:36:39 GMT
I'm with you, Martin. Martin D, that is!  To the "other" Martin i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif : I remember Hayley talking about meeting with either Don Black or Tim Rice for the lyrics they wrote. I'm pretty sure it was the Cinema song, so it must have been Don Black. She mentioned reading the lyrics, and thinking they were just perfect, but there was no mention at all of Hayley's participation in the writing. If she had, it would be mentioned in the credits of the song in the CD booklet. It makes the most sense that her favorite writing partner is one who she's worked with more than once. That's why Jeff Franzel makes the most sense. Don't forget about Beth Orton, who helped her with Talk To Me. But I don't think it's her, either. |
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Post by dwornock on May 24, 2013 20:01:13 GMT
The following discussion has been moved from the 'Plans for a new DVD?' thread by Richard. Hi everyone, I think all of us agree that Hayley's singing better than ever at the moment... I don't doubt that Hayley has developed over the last 10 years. I don't have the talent or the hearing to know. However, I do know what I like. I don't like her current singing as much because I don't like the songs as much. 10 years ago, like in the CD Pure, Hayley was singing mostly great songs that will still be great songs 40 years from now. However, 40 years from now, I believe, few people will remember, sing, or listen to many of the songs on her most recent CDs.
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Post by martindn on May 25, 2013 21:49:42 GMT
I think Hushabye might be the exception to that. Whatever you think about an album of lullabies, those songs have staying power for sure.
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Post by Libby on May 26, 2013 6:48:07 GMT
I think Hushabye might be the exception to that. Whatever you think about an album of lullabies, those songs have staying power for sure. Martin D No it won't. The only staying power they have is that they're played for or sung to little kids. Most people grow out of lullabies. The only reason they would seek them out again is when they have their own kids. You see, it really is mostly for kids. It goes in a circle. Not many adults in their right minds would listen to a baby song on their own. I can't relax to a ridiculous song about silly childish things. Enya is for the adults who want to relax. However, I strongly disagree that her most recent CDs (other than Hushabye) don't have staying power. Dwornock, how far back are you going when you say her "recent" CDs? Anything after Pure, or just ones like Paradiso, Winter Magic, etc.? Are you saying you don't even like the songs she's written herself? Do you not like Celtic songs? Or just not Italian movie music? I could agree with you on that, I love the melodies of some, and her voice sounds gorgeous, but they're not all very exciting. I wasn't as thrilled with her Christmas album as I thought I might be. And Hushabye definitely doesn't excite me, either, as you can probably tell. |
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Post by Simba on May 26, 2013 15:28:28 GMT
"No it won't", Haha Libby I think you'd get my point here now, if you see martin's post he said "I think, Hushabye would be an exception", if you felt differently, you'd think it won't. But people are just so sure about its downside. Myself and a lot of other people I know do not like Enya, and I don't think anyone who'd want to listen to an awesome voice would want to listen to her, yes it's amazing and all, but too much reverb, effects to actually hear what she's doing with her voice. Adults and children alike I don't think no one else's voice but hayley's has the power to heal. In Enya's songs it's not her voice at all. You cannot relax to songs for babies, totally fine  But with a voice like hayley's and the kind of response I got from a lot of people (over 15 that I've told so far), I'm sure they'd be enjoying all these songs. We should also acknowledge the fact that we are not always the recipient for a song that we like, sometimes we can relate to them, but it's not written for us. So saying this is "FOR" kids is irrelevant because we listen to songs by a guy singing to his girlfriend, or about break ups that we may not relate to, it'd be funny if we said people of such experiences only will listen to it, because it's for them right? Because these songs are not sung in a kiddish way, and a whole level of intimacy is added to it, these are not songs for kids. Half of these songs or more I'd be able to sing to my loved ones to put them to sleep too. One or two I agree is only for kids, but hey lullabies should focus on that too. We are not certain about what we don't know, let's not be sure is all I'm asking. I can see this album setting a standard for lullabies and music that relaxes the soul. But that's just me hehe. |
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Post by martindn on May 26, 2013 19:43:36 GMT
Libby, most of those songs were being sung to babies 50 or even 100 or more years ago. Don't have staying power? They must be some of the most enduring songs Hayley has ever sung. I remember many of them from my own childhood. Most of the songs on Pure I had never heard before I heard Hayley sing them. OK, Amazing Grace, In Trutina, Wuthering Heights, and after that I'm struggling, and none of them go back as far with me as Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.
They are for the most part classic songs. That doesn't mean you have to like them, but at least they have stood the test of time.
But despite that from what I've heard, Hayley has brought something new to them. A new and fresh way of performing them that is very beautiful.
Don't let your dislike of the songs blind you to the brilliance and beauty of the way Hayley has revived them.
Martin D
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Post by Simba on May 26, 2013 20:04:59 GMT
Revive is a wonderful way of putting it Martin by singing lullabies like never before. |
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Post by Libby on May 26, 2013 22:37:43 GMT
Libby, most of those songs were being sung to babies 50 or even 100 or more years ago. Don't have staying power? They must be some of the most enduring songs Hayley has ever sung. I remember many of them from my own childhood. Most of the songs on Pure I had never heard before I heard Hayley sing them. OK, Amazing Grace, In Trutina, Wuthering Heights, and after that I'm struggling, and none of them go back as far with me as Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. They are for the most part classic songs. That doesn't mean you have to like them, but at least they have stood the test of time. But despite that from what I've heard, Hayley has brought something new to them. A new and fresh way of performing them that is very beautiful. Don't let your dislike of the songs blind you to the brilliance and beauty of the way Hayley has revived them. Martin D Well, don't let all my negativity blind you to the fact that I've said over and over that I DO think she has done them as beautifully as she could! It's just not my thing, that's all! I agree that lullabies have been around for ages. But in order for a song to have staying power, in my mind, it has to be truly meaningful and touch your soul, and I just can't see a little kid song doing so. The Hayley songs that have the most staying power for me are the ones she's written. Now, don't get me started about Enya. She does have a very beautiful, ethereal voice, and a very impressive, versatile voice. Did you know that she does nearly ALL her background vocals?? She can sing soprano notes, and really low notes, too! Have you heard the song Only Time? That "ba-buh-buh-ba" part sung with a low woman's voice (which you especially hear near the end) is her! Hayley's voice isn't quite as versatile as Enya's. Enya may not use a lot of belting power in her voice, but I don't think I'd like it if she did. If you don't care for her music, fine, but you can't say that she doesn't have an awesome voice! That angers me that you would say "anyone who wants to listen to an awesome voice wouldn't listen to Enya". Let me tell you something, Enya has an awesome voice, an awesome artistic ability, awesome everything! The reverb you're hearing is ALL Enya. If you listen to all the reverb, and know that every bit of is Enya herself, maybe you would be impressed. She is unique, and she definitely has the ability to relax people. Part of what is relaxing is some of the rhytmic beats to her songs, and also the theme of her music is very peaceful. Her voice is very beautiful sounding, and she sings in a soft way that is just perfect. I already know Hayley's voice is also very calming and beautiful, you don't need to convince me of that. But if the song itself bothers me, I'm not going to be quite as calm. I could say "anyone who wants to listen to awesome music wouldn't listen to silly lullabies". That would sure make you happy, wouldn't it? Before you say another unkind word about Enya, go listen to the song Fallen Embers. Then get back to me. I can't post the link here, though. Okay, I'm sure you're all fed up with me now, and I'm pretty fed up myself. Nobody seems to be able to accept or tolerate the fact that some people could dislike something Hayley does. So, I think it's time for me take a break from this forum. This forum is just not conducive to differing opinions. A forum is for discussion, and sometimes discussions involve opinions that don't match up with the majority. But I'm starting to get the feeling that these differing opinions are not welcome on this forum, and I don't think that's fair. You've already turned away someone else for the time being, too. We'll start our own PM discussion for now, I guess. Otherwise we'll probably tear our hair out. LOL But maybe a little Enya will do the trick. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gif |
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Post by I-H-F on May 26, 2013 23:33:22 GMT
Okay, I'm sure you're all fed up with me now, and I'm pretty fed up myself. Nobody seems to be able to accept or tolerate the fact that some people could dislike something Hayley does. So, I think it's time for me take a break from this forum. This forum is just not conducive to differing opinions. A forum is for discussion, and sometimes discussions involve opinions that don't match up with the majority. But I'm starting to get the feeling that these differing opinions are not welcome on this forum, and I don't think that's fair. You've already turned away someone else for the time being, too. We'll start our own PM discussion for now, I guess. Otherwise we'll probably tear our hair out. LOL But maybe a little Enya will do the trick. i.postimg.cc/9fYxy370/smilie-big-grin.gifI don't think anyone is fed up with you, Libby. And I don't think anyone wants to see you take a break from here. Your opinion here matters as much as anyone's. Hayley herself described Hushabye like Marmite. Some will like it, some won't. I'm more the latter, as it seems you are too. I'm sure if Hayley reads this forum herself, she would be grateful for all sorts of feedback, be it good, bad or indifferent. |
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Post by Bamafan on May 27, 2013 0:59:32 GMT
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Post by Simba on May 27, 2013 2:27:20 GMT
Lol Libby forgive me for saying those things about Enya, I like Enya songs too. When I said it's not her voice, I didn't mean literally, I mean't in her songs her voice isn't the highlight rather the way it's produced. This is just my personal opinion and many others I know, because I used to follow Enya too, Only Time, Carribean Blue are my favourites, but I saw videos of her singing live and was disappointed. Nothing personal. And like I said in the other topic we can all let it go now |
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But with a voice like hayley's and the kind of response I got from a lot of people (over 15 that I've told so far), I'm sure they'd be enjoying all these songs. 
